After years of serving in different lanes of ministry and leadership, Peter and Tini Lawry are beginning to see God bring their callings together in a powerful new way. 

Together with Jim and Martha (in studio), they unpack powerful moments from the U.S. Christian Chamber of Commerce SWC 2026, what it means to bring God into the marketplace, and how believers can begin hearing the voice of God more clearly in their daily work and leadership. 

Peter shares how a simple challenge to make God the “CEO” of his business completely transformed his understanding of Kingdom business, while Tini opens up about mentoring the next generation through the Lions Club and watching young leaders move from blame and apathy to ownership and purpose. 

Together, they discuss: 

• Why there is no divide between “Sunday faith” and weekday work 

• What it looks like to build a true Kingdom business 

• How Christians can learn to recognize and respond to God’s voice 

• The importance of discovering your own unique way God communicates with you 

• Why comparison can hinder spiritual growth and discernment 

• Encouraging signs they are seeing in today’s younger generation 

• How God may be bringing their individual callings back together in a new season of ministry as a couple 

You’ll also hear practical wisdom about weighing and testing what you sense from God, listening for His direction in everyday moments, and creating space for Him to lead both your work and your relationships. 

Whether you’re leading a business, mentoring others, approaching retirement, or simply longing to hear God more clearly, this conversation offers encouragement to trust that your work matters deeply to Him – and that He still speaks today. 

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

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• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber of Commerce by joining or starting your local chamber: https://www.uschristianchamber.com 

Featuring: Peter & Tini Lawry 

Ministry: Business as Mission 

Ep 2147: Hearing God Beyond Sunday

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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What happens when God takes an entrepreneur’s ambition, strips away self-reliance, and replaces it with a Kingdom mindset? 

In this compelling episode, Geeta Chopra shares her remarkable journey from Hinduism and New Age spirituality to a life fully surrendered to Jesus – and how that transformation completely changed the way she approaches business, leadership, and purpose. 

As Geeta began building a business with God at the center, she quickly discovered that entrepreneurship doesn’t just reveal strengths. It exposes the areas God still wants to heal. From learning radical obedience to navigating decisions that didn’t make logical business sense, Geeta shares how the Holy Spirit became her guide not only spiritually, but practically as an entrepreneur. 

This conversation dives into what it really means to lead with a Kingdom mindset in today’s marketplace and why faith-driven business owners must learn to depend on God’s wisdom over worldly strategies. 

What You’ll Hear in This Episode: 

• Geeta’s powerful testimony of finding Jesus after years of spiritual searching 

• Why entrepreneurship often exposes pride, fear, insecurity, and control 

• How renewing your mind impacts leadership and decision-making 

• What it looks like to build a business with Kingdom purpose 

• Why God sometimes asks entrepreneurs to take steps that seem irrational 

• The connection between obedience, faith, and business growth 

• The vision behind Excellence Directory, a global Christian business platform 

• Encouragement for leaders seeking clarity, purpose, and spiritual boldness 

Whether you’re leading a company, launching something new, or simply trying to honor God in your work, this episode is a powerful reminder that business can become one of God’s greatest tools for discipleship, refinement, and Kingdom impact. 

Be sure to check out Geeta’s book, Kingdom Mindset, and visit the Excellence Directory to learn more about her mission to connect and equip Kingdom-minded businesses around the world. 

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

• Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber of Commerce by joining or starting your local chamber: https://www.uschristianchamber.com 

Featuring: Geeta Chopra 

Ministry: Excellence Directory 

Ep 2146: Building a Business with a Kingdom Mindset

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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What if the place you go to relax, connect, or compete could also become the place where lives are eternally changed? In this episode, Jim and Martha sit down with Ron “3-Putt” Potter and Wes Kliner of Challenge Golf to explore how a simple game is being used to share the Gospel in powerful, intentional ways. 

From corporate careers and the courtroom to full-time ministry, Ron and Wes share how God redirected their paths toward something far greater in this season of life. Through free golf events, meaningful relationships, and strategic follow-up, Challenge Golf is reaching people who might never step foot in a church – creating space for authentic connection and life-changing conversations about faith. 

What you’ll hear in this episode: 

• How Challenge Golf uses free events and relationships to reach unchurched golfers 

• The approach of serving unbelieving and unchurched attendees 

• A powerful story of a life changed years after attending a single event  

• The heart behind their “million golfers” vision and what’s driving their growth 

• How retirement can become a launchpad for Kingdom impact, not a slowdown 

• Details on their new 18-week discipleship program designed to guide next steps in faith  

• Ways churches and individuals can get involved without financial barriers 

Challenge Golf is more than an outreach. It’s a reminder that God can use anything we love when we surrender it to Him. Whether you’re swinging a club, leading a business, or stepping into retirement, your everyday spaces can become sacred ground. 

If you’ve ever wondered how to live more intentionally in your current season, this conversation will inspire you to see your influence – and your hobbies – through a Kingdom lens. 

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

• Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber of Commerce by joining or starting your local chamber: https://www.uschristianchamber.com 

Featuring: Ron “3-Putt” Potter & Wes Kliner 

Ministry: Challenge Golf 

Ep 2145: An Invitation to God’s Mulligan for Life

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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This episode highlights a powerful example of what it looks like to faithfully serve behind the scenes and how God often uses those seasons to prepare someone for something more. Leah Borg shares her journey from supporting a ministry vision for over a decade to ultimately stepping into leadership when the time was right. 

Through her story, you’ll hear how serving others isn’t a lesser calling – it’s often the training ground for greater responsibility. Leah’s experience with Ministry Assistant Services reveals how God weaves purpose into even the most administrative roles, impacting ministries around the world in ways many never see. She also shares how her involvement with American Heritage Girls has shaped her heart for discipling the next generation and living out her faith in everyday leadership. 

What you’ll hear in the episode: 

• Leah’s faith journey and how it shaped her path into ministry work 

• The value and calling of being in a support role 

• What 12 years of faithful service prepared her for 

• How she stepped into leadership when the founders transitioned out 

• Stories of impact in supporting diverse ministries 

• Encouragement for those who feel called to serve behind the scenes 

Leah’s story is a reminder that no role is small when it’s surrendered to God. Whether you’re leading from the front or faithfully supporting from the background, your work matters – and it may be preparing you for something you don’t yet see. 

If you’re part of a ministry that could use support, or if you’ve ever felt a pull toward serving in a meaningful, behind-the-scenes role, Leah’s work through Ministry Assistant Services is worth exploring. And for those investing in young women, her involvement with American Heritage Girls offers a glimpse into another impactful way to lead and disciple. 

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

• Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber of Commerce by joining or starting your local chamber: https://www.uschristianchamber.com 

Featuring: Leah Borg 

Ministry: Ministry Assistant Services  

Ep 2144: Serving Ministries (Behind the Scenes)

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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As a business owner in Minnesota, Holly Misener began living out her faith more openly with clients – praying for them, pointing them to Jesus, and watching lives be transformed. What she didn’t expect was how quickly that obedience would grow into something bigger: the launch of the Minnesota Christian Chamber of Commerce. 

In this episode, Holly shares how God led her to step into leadership at just the right time and why she believes Minnesota is ready for a shift as Christian business leaders come together in unity, courage, and truth. 

What you’ll hear in the episode: 

• How Holly’s own business became a catalyst for marketplace ministry 

• The moment she knew she was called to start the Minnesota Christian Chamber 

• Why so many Christian business owners feel pressure to keep their faith private – and how that’s changing 

• What the Chamber is doing to create community, connection, and boldness among leaders 

• The early momentum and stories of impact already happening across Minnesota 

• Holly’s vision to start locally and expand to reach every corner of the state (then the US) 

At the core of it all is a simple but powerful belief: business leaders don’t have to hide their faith to succeed – they can lead with it. And when they come together, the impact multiplies. 

If you’re in Minnesota, this is your invitation to get connected. Attend an event, meet other faith-driven leaders, and be part of what God is building through the Minnesota Christian Chamber. And wherever you’re listening from, consider how you might plug into a Christian chamber or faith-and-work community in your own state. You were placed where you are for a reason. Now is the time to start making Kingdom impact! 

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

• Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber (https://www.uschristianchamber.com) by joining or starting your local chamber.  

Featuring: Holly Misener 

Ministry: Minnesota Christian Chamber of Commerce 

Ep 2143: Building Bold Businesses in Minnesota

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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What does it look like to lead a city not just with strategy, but with surrendered faith? 

In this episode, we head to small-town Oklahoma to hear from Loran Mayes, mayor of Wilburton, who never planned on public office, but stepped in when she felt called to serve her community. What unfolds is a deeply honest conversation about leadership under pressure, faith in conflict, and trusting God in places you never expected to go. 

Loran opens up about the moment her faith truly became her own – and how that foundation now anchors her as she leads, makes difficult decisions, and navigates the realities of public life. From small-town leadership to unexpected influence at the state level, her story reveals how God stretches and positions us in ways we could never plan. 

What you’ll hear in the episode: 

• The moment Loran’s faith became personal and how she still returns to it today 

• Why she ran for mayor (and why “change” wasn’t actually the goal) 

• The unseen cost of leadership on her family and how they’ve navigated it 

• What it means to run a campaign – and lead – with integrity as a believer 

• A powerful leadership principle: creating environments where the right things are easier 

• How God “paves the way” (and why it often feels like everything is falling apart first) 

• How prayer shifted from “God, change this situation” to “God, align me with Your will” 

• A raw look at conflict, mediation, and choosing humility over being right 

• Why more believers should step into politics– without needing to be loud or extreme about their faith 

Loran’s story is a reminder that God often calls us into spaces we don’t feel ready for and faithfully equips us along the way. Whether you’re leading a city, a team, or your family, this conversation will challenge you to lead with humility, courage, and trust. 

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

•  Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber (https://www.uschristianchamber.com) by joining or starting your local chamber.  

And for national (even global) networking and an incredible marketplace missions experience, come to SWC 2026, April 22-24 in Orlando (code IWORK4HIM gets you 20% off): https://www.swc2026.com 

Featuring: Loran Mayes

Ministry: Mayor of Wilburton, OK

Ep 2142: Leading with Faith in Small-Town America

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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David Burton thought he was a great neighbor – friendly, polite, easy to live next to. But after hearing a simple challenge rooted in Jesus’ words to “love your neighbor,” he realized something uncomfortable: he didn’t actually know most of the people living right next to him. 

That moment didn’t just change his perspective. It reshaped his work, leading to the Engaged Neighbor Program and a growing movement to help people live out one of Jesus’ most foundational commands in a tangible, everyday way. 

In this conversation, David unpacks what it really looks like to love your neighbor, not as an idea, but as a lifestyle, and why this command, repeated throughout Scripture, still has the power to transform communities today. 

What you’ll hear in the episode: 

• The personal conviction that challenged David’s definition of a “good neighbor” 

• How Jesus’ command to love God and love your neighbor reframes everyday life 

• Why the opposite of love isn’t hate – it’s apathy 

• The gap between being “friendly” and being truly engaged 

• The four key elements that help communities thrive: belonging, connection, vitality, and leadership 

• How neighboring creates natural, pressure-free opportunities to share your faith 

• Real stories of impact, from neighbors stepping into leadership to showing up in life’s hardest moments 

• Why many people (even in the church) settle for distance instead of connection 

• The importance of starting with the people right outside your door, not just the world at large 

• Simple, practical ways to begin neighboring, even if it feels awkward at first 

At its core, this episode is a reminder that Jesus didn’t just teach about loving your neighbor – He lived it. And when we take even small steps in that direction, we reflect His heart in a world that’s often disconnected and isolated. 

Start simple. Learn a name. Open your door. Love the people God has already placed around you. Pick up David’s book Neighborhood Mission Trips for Everyday Christians, and consider signing up for the Engaged Neighbor newsletter and marking your calendar to celebrate Good Neighbor Week (Sep 28-Oct 4, Missouri) and Good Neighbor Day (Sep 28, national).  

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

•  Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber (https://www.uschristianchamber.com) by joining or starting your local chamber.  

And for national (even global) networking and an incredible marketplace missions experience, come to SWC 2026, April 22-24 in Orlando (code IWORK4HIM gets you 20% off): https://www.swc2026.com 

Featuring: David Burton 

Ministry: The Engaged Neighbor Program 

Ep 2141: Are You Actually a Good Neighbor?

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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What happens when you gather bold, faith-driven business leaders in one place? 

This episode offers a preview. 

With the US Christian Chamber Spiritual World Citizens Expo right around the corner (April 22-24), Jim and Martha sit down with the podcasters of “Podcast Row” – the voices who will be capturing the stories, strategies, and Kingdom impact happening live in Orlando. 

But this isn’t just about who will be there. It’s about what happens when they are. 

From leaders who’ve navigated political influence, financial collapse, late-in-life faith transformations, and decades in ministry and media, one thing becomes clear: the marketplace is not separate from the mission; it’s where it unfolds. 

And SWC 2026 is designed to bring that reality to life! 

What you’ll hear in the episode: 

• The real stories behind the voices you’ll meet on Podcast Row 

• Why faith-driven leaders are prioritizing proximity to like-minded builders 

• How business growth, stewardship, and bold faith intersect in today’s marketplace 

• The unique role Podcast Row will play in capturing and amplifying these conversations 

• What attendees are most excited about (from AI and Kingdom finance labs to high-impact connections) 

• Why this isn’t a “drop in and leave” event but a full, immersive experience 

More than sessions or speakers, this conversation highlights the true value of the Expo: relationships.  

Because again and again, you hear it – breakthroughs don’t just come from content. They come from being in the right room, with the right people, at the right time. 

If you’re ready to experience that kind of environment firsthand, this is your invitation to register for the USCCC SWC Expo 2026 and step into the room (use code IWORK4HIM for your discount!). And as you prepare, take some time to explore the voices you’ve heard here. Their podcasts offer a deeper look into the kind of conversations you’ll be stepping into. 

• Joey Ruffalo’s Prosperity Lounge 

• Kristen Luidhardt’s Liberty Spenders 

• The Mike Gilland Show 

• Scott Warren’s Preach Where You Reach 

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

•  Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• For all your payment processing needs, turn to a company that you can trust to use their profits for Kingdom purposes. Check out all that ePaymints offers in the fintech world: https://www.epaymints.com  

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber (https://www.uschristianchamber.com) by joining or starting your local chamber.  

And for national (even global) networking and an incredible marketplace missions experience, come to SWC 2026, April 22-24 in Orlando (code IWORK4HIM gets you 20% off): https://www.swc2026.com 

Featuring: Joey Ruffalo, Kristen Luidhardt, Mike Gilland, & Scott Warren 

Ministries: The Prosperity Lounge, Liberty Spenders, The Mike Gilland Show, & Preach Where You Reach 

Ep 2140: The Voices of SWC 2026 Podcast Row

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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On the outside, Jared and Lindsay Stump look like a typical suburban couple: raising kids, managing careers, and tackling home projects. But behind the scenes, they’re living with deep intentionality, using their gifts, marriage, and everyday moments to serve God and impact others. 

From engineering and ministry to digital influence and hospitality, their story is a powerful reminder that your calling isn’t confined to a title – it’s lived out right where you are! 

What you’ll hear in this episode: 

• The role faith played in Jared and Linday’s relationship from the very beginning 

• Why being “on the same team” is foundational for a strong marriage 

• The heart behind Lindsay’s “Organized to Save” platform and stewarding what you have 

• How Jared lives out ministry in the workplace as an engineer and pastor 

• What it looks like to navigate seasons, priorities, and big decisions with God at the center 

• Practical ways to stay aligned as a couple while raising a family and serving others 

Jared and Lindsay don’t separate faith from work, home, or influence. They integrate it all. Whether it’s serving at church, mentoring others, managing a team, or organizing a home on a budget, they’re living proof that every space is an opportunity for ministry. 

Their encouragement for couples is simple but powerful: stay rooted in prayer, communicate openly, and remember: you’re on the same team. When you invite God into every part of your life, even the ordinary becomes meaningful. 

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

•  Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• For all your payment processing needs, turn to a company that you can trust to use their profits for Kingdom purposes. Check out all that ePaymints offers in the fintech world: https://www.epaymints.com  

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber (https://www.uschristianchamber.com) by joining or starting your local chamber.  

And for national (even global) networking and an incredible marketplace missions experience, come to SWC 2026, April 22-24 in Orlando (code IWORK4HIM gets you 20% off): https://www.swc2026.com 

Featuring: Jared & Lindsay Stump

Ministry: Organized to Save

Ep 2138: How to Start a Workplace Bible Study

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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Living out your faith at work can feel challenging, but it’s also one of the most powerful mission fields believers have. On this episode of iWork4Him, Jim and Martha Brangenberg talk with Lori Drury, CEO and Executive Director of Biblical Business Training. 

BBT equips Christians to apply biblical principles directly to their work through workplace Bible studies, leadership development, and community. Lori shares how God led her from a corporate career into ministry leadership and explains how BBT is helping believers around the world grow in their faith while impacting their workplaces. 

What You’ll Hear in This Episode 

• How a workplace Bible study sparked the creation of BBT 

• BBT’s mission: applying biblical principles to work 

• The “Four Cs”: curriculum, connectivity, coaching, and contribution 

• How professionals start Bible studies with coworkers or peers 

• Flexible group formats: in-person, online, or hybrid 

• Stories of real workplace impact through community and prayer 

• How BBT groups are launching across the U.S. and globally 

• The growing involvement of younger workplace leaders 

Workplace discipleship often begins with one person responding to God’s prompting. Through resources, coaching, and community, Biblical Business Training is helping believers take that step – bringing Scripture, encouragement, and accountability into their daily work lives. 

If you’re curious about what a workplace Bible study through BBT looks like, Lori also shares an easy next step in this episode: join one of their sample groups. These sessions allow you to experience the format, explore the technology, and ask questions before starting or joining a group of your own. Go to b-b-t.org and explore their resources today.  

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

•  Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• For all your payment processing needs, turn to a company that you can trust to use their profits for Kingdom purposes. Check out all that ePaymints offers in the fintech world: https://www.epaymints.com  

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber (https://www.uschristianchamber.com) by joining or starting your local chamber.  

And for national (even global) networking and an incredible marketplace missions experience, come to SWC 2026, April 22-24 in Orlando (code IWORK4HIM gets you 20% off): https://www.swc2026.com 

Featuring: Lori Drury 

Ministry: Biblical Business Training 

Ep 2138: How to Start a Workplace Bible Study

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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