What does it mean to live an “unshakeable life”—and how does that practically play out in the workplace, in business challenges, and in marriage? 

In this episode of iWork4Him, Jim and Martha Brangenberg welcome back Brad Hawkins, founder of SaferNet and author of Unshakable Life. Brad shares from his personal journey of abiding in Christ through entrepreneurial setbacks, married life, and daily decisions. He reminds us that abiding doesn't mean life gets easier—but it does mean it gets richer, more grounded, and less reactive to the chaos around us. 

Brad talks candidly about: 

• Why following Jesus doesn't guarantee financial success 

• How spiritual armor and abiding (think John 15)  are daily necessities in a fallen world 

• What abiding looks like practically—especially at work 

• The power of asking God small questions, even “right or left?” 

• Using “neutral” as a decision-making tool in marriage to find unity 

• How SaferNet is helping people live securely and with fewer digital temptations 

• What he's learned about persistence, prayer, and trust in a long business journey 

You’ll also hear how Brad and his wife have kept their marriage strong over 33 years—not by avoiding conflict, but by continually recalibrating their decisions toward God’s best rather than just each other’s preferences. 

If you're looking for a fresh, practical take on walking with God in every moment of life—especially when things aren’t easy—this conversation is for you. 

Mentioned in This Episode: 

• Unshakable Life and God, the Devil, and the Internet by Brad Hawkins (available on Amazon) 

• SaferNet, protection for your home and business – www.safernet.com 

• US Christian Chamber of Commerce – Join the movement to connect faith-driven business leaders 

• SWC 2026 Expo in Orlando, April 22-24 – Use code IWORK4HIM for your 10% discount! 

Connect with Us: 
Subscribe to iWork4Him wherever you listen to podcasts, and follow us on social media to join the faith and work conversation. 

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 Featuring: Brad Hawkins

Ministry/ Workplace: SaferNet

What happens when faith, heritage, and world-class furniture design intersect? You get Ernest Hershberger, founder of two different furniture businesses. Explore with Ernie what it means to be a steward of both talent and tradition. He shares about his Amish roots, the biblical foundation for lean manufacturing, and how he leads his company with a relentless pursuit of excellence and service. 

Listeners will hear about the legacy of woodworking that spans four generations, how Ernie's faith deeply informs his leadership, and the surprising innovations coming out of his Ohio-based business—including custom furniture designs that have reached every U.S. state and 10 countries. Through it all, Ernie’s message is clear: stewardship is about using your God-given gifts to serve others and glorify Him, no matter your trade. 

In respect of Amish traditions, Ernie’s face is not shown in the video version of this episode. We are grateful for the opportunity to share his voice and story while honoring his community’s values. 

Key Highlights: 

• The biblical case for lean manufacturing 

• Creating a “hedge” around your life to avoid temptation 

• How Homestead Furniture is a generational company with global reach 

• Integrating faith into company culture, customer service, and leadership 

• The framework that guides Homestead's operations and values 

• Why the goal isn’t earthly rewards—but eternal ones 

Quote to Remember: 
"Lean manufacturing is the heathen term for biblical stewardship." — Ernie Hershberger 

Whether you're running a business, leading a team, or simply navigating your workday, this conversation offers timeless encouragement for faithful service in the workplace. 

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iWork4Him wants to honor God with every dollar He’s entrusted to us! That’s why we proudly use businesses like SaferNet VPN and antivirus, Patriot Mobile cell service provider, ePaymints processing, among others. Find all the organizations we love and trust at iWork4Him.com/sponsors. 

To get serious about your Kingdom impact in the marketplace, consider joining the US Christian Chamber of Commerce! For unparalleled personal and professional growth and connection, come to the SWC 2026 event, taking place April 22-24 in Orlando. Register with code IWORK4HIM for 10% off your ticket! 

What step can you take today to invite God into your work? Join the iWork4Him Nation! 

 Featuring: Ernest Hershberger

Ministry/ Workplace: Homestead Furniture & Abner Henry

Too many Christian business owners pour decades into building companies with a Kingdom culture—only to watch it vanish after a sale. In this episode, Jim and Martha Brangenberg welcome Brandt Brereton, founder of Perpetuate Capital and author of Perpetuate: Selling Your Business Without Selling Out, to share a powerful alternative to selling out: the Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP). 

Brandt’s personal story—from a high-powered finance career to being “grounded for repairs” by God—sets the stage for a mission that’s both financially wise and biblically aligned. Discover how ESOPs can allow business owners to exit profitably without sacrificing their faith-driven legacy. 

Whether you're a Christian entrepreneur nearing retirement, an advisor, or someone passionate about aligning business with God’s purposes, this episode will challenge the way you think about stewardship, succession, and faith at work. 

What You'll Hear in This Episode: 

• The faith journey that reshaped Brandt’s vision for business 

• Why most business transitions destroy Kingdom culture—and how to stop it 

• Common misconceptions about ESOPs and why they deserve a second look 

• A biblical view of retirement, stewardship, and succession planning 

• How ESOPs protect legacy, honor employees, and align with Christian values 

• What Christian investors and business owners need to know about private equity pitfalls 

• How Perpetuate Capital is helping companies transition without selling out 

The world uses people to get business done. Jesus wants us to use business to get people done. – Brandt Brereton 

If today’s conversation sparked your interest in integrating faith and business legacy, check out these recent iWork4Him episodes: 

• Andrew Galpin on Redefining Success Through Eternal Impact 

• Jeanna Roach on Building Kingdom Culture from the Ground Up 

These guests share unique insights on leadership, faith at work, and how to steward your influence for God’s purposes in every season of your career. 

iWork4Him wants to honor God with every dollar He’s entrusted to us! That’s why we proudly use businesses like SaferNet VPN and antivirus, Patriot Mobile cell service provider, ePaymints processing, among others. Find all the organizations we love and trust at iWork4Him.com/sponsors. 

To get serious about your Kingdom impact in the marketplace, consider joining the US Christian Chamber of Commerce! For unparalleled personal and professional growth and connection, come to the SWC 2026 event, taking place April 22-24 in Orlando. Register with code IWORK4HIM for 10% off your ticket! 

 Featuring: Brandt Brereton

Ministry/ Workplace: Perpetuate Capital 

What does it really mean to hear God's voice in your everyday work life? In this powerful episode, we welcome back Andy Mason, an incredible Kingdom business developer who has shared with our iWork4Him audience before. This time he’s joined by his equally incredible wife Janine Mason, as they share their deeply personal journey of following God's voice across continents, careers, and family life. 

From navigating cross-cultural moves to prioritizing marriage and parenting in the midst of ministry, the Masons reveal what it looks like to truly live out faith at work, home, and anywhere. They also unpack the inspiration behind their latest book, Listen Up! Hearing God at Work, offering insight and encouragement to believers who want to walk closely with God in every aspect of their daily lives—including their 9 to 5. 

What You’ll Hear in This Episode: 

• How to recognize the voice of God in your work decisions 

• The importance of hearing AND obeying (they’re more synonymous than you realize) 

• Why your workplace is a primary place to forge friendship with God 

• The story behind Heaven in Business and how it began 

• Practical encouragement for those walking through challenging seasons 

• What it means to raise a family in kingdom culture 

• How everyday impressions—like the urge to text a friend—can be the voice of God 

Key Scriptures Referenced: 

• Isaiah 43 – God’s presence through adversity 

• Proverbs 30:5 – God proves His promises through trials 

• 1 Peter 1:3 – you have everything needed for life and godliness 

Final Word to the Listener: 
If you're in a season of waiting, questioning, or trying to discern your next step, this episode offers a clear message: God is with you—and He speaks. Your workplace may be one of the most important places where your relationship with Him is formed. 

Resources & Partners that strive to bring His Kingdom here to Earth: 

• SaferNet – the only VPN, antivirus, and web filter that iWork4Him needs for digital safety 

• US Christian Chamber of Commerce – Join the Christian networking event of 2026 at the US Christian Chamber SWC Conference. Use code IWORK4HIM for 10% off your ticket.  

• Patriot Mobile – America’s only Christian conservative cell service provider. Switch today! 

• ePaymints – a payment processor you can feel good about using 

Find all the organizations we love and trust at iWork4Him.com/sponsors. 

 Featuring: Andy & Janine Mason

Ministry/ Workplace: Heaven in Business

What happens when life doesn’t go as planned—but God shows up anyway? In this deeply moving episode, you'll meet Lauren Layman, a third-generation member of a family-run insurance business. Her interview explores the weight of legacy, personal faith, and the health crisis that redefined everything. 

Lauren shares her story of growing up in church, building a career in the family business, and navigating motherhood—only to be blindsided by a health battle that turned her world upside down. Hear how she went from running a successful business to barely functioning, and how God used that season of suffering to bring spiritual breakthrough, marital healing, and a renewed sense of purpose. 

This conversation isn’t just about hardship—it’s about hope, community, and learning how to listen when God whispers in the chaos. 

Why Listen? 

• Gain insight into the realities of working in a family business—and how to navigate expectations. 

• Be encouraged by Lauren’s raw honesty about anxiety, illness, and trusting God in total dependence. 

• Hear how community prayer, worship music, and simple obedience became lifelines. 

• Discover how Lauren’s journey reshaped her leadership, faith, and empathy for others. 

Key Takeaways: 

• “Life doesn’t have to be perfect for God to show up.” 

• “We can do really hard things with Him.” 

• “God used adversity to move me from who I was to who He could use more effectively.” 

Resources & Partners that are “on mission:” 

• SaferNet – the only VPN, antivirus, and web filter that iWork4Him needs for digital safety 

• US Christian Chamber of Commerce – Join the Christian networking event of 2026 at the US Christian Chamber SWC Conference. Use code IWORK4HIM for 10% off your ticket.  

• Patriot Mobile – America’s only Christian conservative cell service provider. Switch today! 

• ePaymints – a payment processor you can feel good about using 

 Featuring: Lauren Layman

Ministry/ Workplace: The Institute for Innovation, Integration & Impact

In this dynamic conversation, have your view of work challenged by Brett Johnson—global discipler, entrepreneur, and pioneer in the faith and work movement—as he confronts one of the most harmful misconceptions facing Christians today: the sacred-secular divide. 

Brett introduces the bold idea of the “abolition of dichotomy”—breaking down the false wall between what’s “spiritual” and what’s “secular.” He unpacks how our faith is meant to blend—not balance—with every part of life, including our daily work. 

You’ll hear: 

• Why “work is good”—not a punishment—and how the idea that “work is worship” can radically reshape your Monday mindset 

• How he challenged the idea that ministry is for a few, and helped launch businesspeople into leadership, mission, and marketplace impact 

• What happened when business principles were applied to a missions organization—resulting in a 25% increase in impact 

• His view that business is a force for good—not only to fund ministry, but to be ministry, creating blessing for employees, cities, and even nations 

• What Psalm 78:72 teaches us about calling: God often elevates what’s already in our hands 

• Why the church is not the final destination—it’s a halfway house, meant to equip and release believers into the world 

Brett’s final summary is packed with insight: 

“You’re called to work. Your work is your worship. Most of us are called to self-funded mission. It’s not about getting God into our business—it’s about getting our business into God’s business.” 

Whether you’re in accounting, retail, education, or tech, this conversation will inspire you to see your everyday labor as a powerful part of God’s plan to disciple nations and restore His world! 

Resources & Partners that are “on mission:” 

• SaferNet – the only VPN, antivirus, and web filter that iWork4Him needs for digital safety 

• US Christian Chamber of Commerce – Join the Christian networking event of 2026 at the US Christian Chamber SWC Conference. Use code IWORK4HIM for 10% off your ticket.  

• Patriot Mobile – America’s only Christian conservative cell service provider 

• ePaymints – a payment processor you can feel good about using! 

 Featuring: Brett Johnson

Ministry/ Workplace: The Institute for Innovation, Integration & Impact

What happens when a guy with no formal theology training decides to take God at His word—literally—and invites Him into his 9-to-5? You get Chuck Ripka’s life story, and trust us, it’s anything but ordinary. 

Jim and Martha met Chuck at Regent Bank’s 94X Summit last year, a mortgage banker turned marketplace minister whose journey has transformed banks, businesses, and lives in Elk River, Minnesota, and around the world. His testimony will stretch your imagination and stir your spirit. 

You’ll hear: 

• The moment Chuck first prayed with a customer—and what happened next 

• How a short conversation with billionaire banker Carl Pohlad turned into a divine appointment 

• The prophetic word that kickstarted a wildly successful bank with $100M growth… and over 100 salvations 

• How obedience (and being uncomfortable!) unlocked miracles in Chuck’s workplace 

• Why Chuck believes if God can use him, He can use anyone 

This episode isn’t just a story—it’s an invitation. If you’ve ever wondered whether your workplace could become a platform for God’s glory, this conversation will ignite your faith and challenge you to ask: “God, could You do that through me?” 

Action Steps: 

1. Ask God to open a door in your workplace—and then watch what He does. 

1. Embrace discomfort—it’s often the price of the front-row seat to His miracles. 

1. Want more? Grab Chuck’s book God Out of the Box on Amazon for even more incredible stories. 

Sponsors and Partners of the iWork4Him Podcast: 

• SaferNet – the only VPN, antivirus, and web filter that iWork4Him needs for digital safety 

• US Christian Chamber of Commerce – Join the Christian networking event of 2026 at the US Christian Chamber SWC Conference. Use code IWORK4HIM for 10% off your ticket.  

• Patriot Mobile – America’s only Christian conservative cell service provider 

• ePaymints – a payment processor you can feel good about using! 

 Featuring: Chuck Ripka

Ministry/ Workplace: God Out of the Box

What does it look like to invite God so intentionally into every part of your life? In this powerful episode, we sit down with Pastor Usman Raza, a pastor in Pakistan and Co-founder of ChristianMarketingExperts.com, to hear how God radically transformed his life, marriage, and business. 

Usman shares how near-death experiences in his family, a broken marriage, and unethical work environments became turning points that drove him into deeper relationship with Jesus. Now leading a house church and running a faith-based marketing agency, Usman offers a vivid picture of what it means to live in the Kingdom every day—at home and in the marketplace. 

You’ll hear: 

• Usman's personal testimony of encountering Jesus through crisis 

• The restoration of his marriage through prayer and surrender 

• How his business became a ministry committed to integrity 

• What it's like to lead a Christian life and business in a majority-Muslim country 

• The daily role of prayer in shaping faith-driven entrepreneurship 

Whether you're facing a crossroads in work or life, this episode will challenge and encourage you to see your workplace as your mission field—and live like it! Listen now to discover what it truly means to work for Him. 

Sponsors and Partners of the iWork4Him Podcast: 

• SaferNet – the only VPN, antivirus, and web filter that iWork4Him needs for digital safety 

• US Christian Chamber of Commerce – Join the Christian networking event of 2026 at the US Christian Chamber SWC Conference. Use code IWORK4HIM for 10% off your ticket! 

• Patriot Mobile – America’s only Christian conservative cell service provider 

• ePaymints – a payment processor you can feel good about using 

 Featuring: Usman Raza

Ministry/ Workplace: Christian Marketing Expert

Jim and Martha Brangenberg sit down with Canadian filmmaker Drew Martin, founder of Mighty Motion Pictures. Drew shares how listening to God has led to bold storytelling on topics like abortion, fatherhood, and cultural confusion. From early creative sparks to working alongside his children today, Drew’s journey reflects deep obedience to God’s call in media. His latest project, Fathers, is a powerful challenge to men to reclaim their role in protecting life and leading with integrity. 

Key Takeaways: 

• Faith can guide every step of a creative career. 

• Bold storytelling can confront cultural lies with love and truth. 

• Film can be a tool for discipleship, healing, and cultural impact. 

• Obedience to God's voice leads to kingdom fruit — despite opposition. 

• Christian creatives are needed in every part of the media world! 

Get Involved: 
To support Drew’s work or host a screening of one of his films, you can email him at dmartin@mightymotionpictures.com. Whether you’re a creative, investor, or simply someone passionate about truth in media, there’s a role for you. Let this episode remind you that your gifts, when surrendered to God, can speak life into culture and bring light into even the darkest spaces. 

Sponsors and Partners of the iWork4Him Podcast: 

• SaferNet – the only VPN, antivirus, and web filter that iWork4Him needs for digital safety 

• US Christian Chamber of Commerce – network and grow your business alongside other organizations with Kingdom-first culture 

• Patriot Mobile – America’s only Christian conservative cell service provider 

• ePaymints – a payment processor you can feel good about using 

 Featuring: Drew Martin

Ministry/ Workplace: Mighty Motion Pictures

Seven years after her first interview on iWork4Him, Jeanna Roach returns to share a powerful story of transformation, both personally and professionally. From a long-awaited answered prayer to unexpected career shifts, Jeanna opens up about her journey from Vice President of Sales & Marketing to CEO of the six Betenbough Companies. Her story is one of deep surrender, holy ambition, and faithful leadership rooted in a Kingdom-first mindset. 

What You’ll Hear in This Episode: 

• A Marriage Transformed: How a 12-year prayer for her husband’s salvation was answered—and the impact it had on their family life (listen to their iWork4Him interview here) 

• When Obedience Looks Like a Demotion: Jeanna describes the difficult decision to take a lower title and paycheck—and how that choice unlocked deeper blessings 

• From Marketing to CEO: The winding road that led her from department leader to executive, and how God used every season as preparation 

• Kingdom Culture in the Workplace: Why Betenbough Companies relentlessly pursues a culture of unity, honor, and flourishing for all—and how Jeanna leads with those values 

• Leading Authentically as a Woman: Jeanna’s encouragement for Christian working women to lead in their God-given design, not as imitations of their male counterparts 

• Keeping Balance: The boundaries and spiritual disciplines Jeanna uses to keep her priorities aligned as a wife, mother, and CEO 

Sponsor Mentions: 

• SaferNet – the only VPN, antivirus, and web filter that iWork4Him needs for digital safety 

• US Christian Chamber of Commerce – network and grow your business alongside other organizations with Kingdom-first culture 

• Patriot Mobile – America’s only Christian conservative cell service provider 

• ePaymints – a payment processor you can feel good about using 

Join the Movement: 
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 Featuring: Jeanna Roach

Ministry/ Workplace: Betenbough Companies