In this conversation, Russell Jenson shares his journey from decades in education to building a mobile escape-room business that became an unexpected leadership training ground. After ten years, he made another courageous decision: selling the business not to slow down, but to make room for what God might be inviting him into next. This episode is for anyone standing at a crossroads, sensing a transition, or facing an OR moment where faith is required to choose what might be the less obvious path.
Read MoreWhat do you do when obedience to God seems to cost you everything? Filmmaker Drew Martin, founder of Mighty Motion Pictures, shares the defining crossroads of his life and work. Drew’s story speaks to anyone facing loss, injustice, or uncertainty while trying to remain faithful to God’s call. You may not get to choose the battle but you do get to choose who you’ll be in it: Villain. Victim... OR Victor.
Read MoreIn this episode, Mike Saunders shares the pivotal decision that moved him from corporate security to faith-driven entrepreneurship. He unpacks how the Holy Spirit guided his steps, how he learned to quiet worry, and why choosing calling over comfort transformed both his business and his walk with God.
Read MoreWhat do you do when your entire world collapses – and you’re the reason it did?
In this deeply honest conversation, Blake Mattocks shares the defining OR moment that changed everything: protect his reputation and cling to what was familiar or bring his failure into the light and trust God with whatever came next. That decision – costly, humbling, and obedient – became the doorway to unexpected healing and a global ministry impacting millions.
This episode reminds us that the Power of OR often appears in moments of surrender, not strategy.
Read MoreIn this episode, Brad Hawkins and Jim Brangenberg dig deeper into The Power of OR—the small but transforming shift that helped Brad rebuild his life after a 24-hour collapse that nearly took everything from him. They revisit the moment Brad’s world came apart, the painful assumptions he carried into every room, and how the simple discipline of staying curious—rather than jumping to conclusions—became the turning point.
Read MoreIn this first-ever episode of the Power of OR Podcast, Brad Hawkins shares the true story behind the movement. Once leading multiple thriving companies across investment management, tech, medical services, and more, Brad watched his world collapse in a single day when a partner’s hidden wrongdoing triggered a federal investigation and froze every dollar he owned. Though ultimately found innocent, Brad lost everything—businesses, reputation, security—and sank into a year marked by depression, anger, and isolation.
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