After years of serving in different lanes of ministry and leadership, Peter and Tini Lawry are beginning to see God bring their callings together in a powerful new way. 

Together with Jim and Martha (in studio), they unpack powerful moments from the U.S. Christian Chamber of Commerce SWC 2026, what it means to bring God into the marketplace, and how believers can begin hearing the voice of God more clearly in their daily work and leadership. 

Peter shares how a simple challenge to make God the “CEO” of his business completely transformed his understanding of Kingdom business, while Tini opens up about mentoring the next generation through the Lions Club and watching young leaders move from blame and apathy to ownership and purpose. 

Together, they discuss: 

• Why there is no divide between “Sunday faith” and weekday work 

• What it looks like to build a true Kingdom business 

• How Christians can learn to recognize and respond to God’s voice 

• The importance of discovering your own unique way God communicates with you 

• Why comparison can hinder spiritual growth and discernment 

• Encouraging signs they are seeing in today’s younger generation 

• How God may be bringing their individual callings back together in a new season of ministry as a couple 

You’ll also hear practical wisdom about weighing and testing what you sense from God, listening for His direction in everyday moments, and creating space for Him to lead both your work and your relationships. 

Whether you’re leading a business, mentoring others, approaching retirement, or simply longing to hear God more clearly, this conversation offers encouragement to trust that your work matters deeply to Him – and that He still speaks today. 

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• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber of Commerce by joining or starting your local chamber: https://www.uschristianchamber.com 

Featuring: Peter & Tini Lawry 

Ministry: Business as Mission 

Ep 2147: Hearing God Beyond Sunday

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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What happens when God takes an entrepreneur’s ambition, strips away self-reliance, and replaces it with a Kingdom mindset? 

In this compelling episode, Geeta Chopra shares her remarkable journey from Hinduism and New Age spirituality to a life fully surrendered to Jesus – and how that transformation completely changed the way she approaches business, leadership, and purpose. 

As Geeta began building a business with God at the center, she quickly discovered that entrepreneurship doesn’t just reveal strengths. It exposes the areas God still wants to heal. From learning radical obedience to navigating decisions that didn’t make logical business sense, Geeta shares how the Holy Spirit became her guide not only spiritually, but practically as an entrepreneur. 

This conversation dives into what it really means to lead with a Kingdom mindset in today’s marketplace and why faith-driven business owners must learn to depend on God’s wisdom over worldly strategies. 

What You’ll Hear in This Episode: 

• Geeta’s powerful testimony of finding Jesus after years of spiritual searching 

• Why entrepreneurship often exposes pride, fear, insecurity, and control 

• How renewing your mind impacts leadership and decision-making 

• What it looks like to build a business with Kingdom purpose 

• Why God sometimes asks entrepreneurs to take steps that seem irrational 

• The connection between obedience, faith, and business growth 

• The vision behind Excellence Directory, a global Christian business platform 

• Encouragement for leaders seeking clarity, purpose, and spiritual boldness 

Whether you’re leading a company, launching something new, or simply trying to honor God in your work, this episode is a powerful reminder that business can become one of God’s greatest tools for discipleship, refinement, and Kingdom impact. 

Be sure to check out Geeta’s book, Kingdom Mindset, and visit the Excellence Directory to learn more about her mission to connect and equip Kingdom-minded businesses around the world. 

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

• Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber of Commerce by joining or starting your local chamber: https://www.uschristianchamber.com 

Featuring: Geeta Chopra 

Ministry: Excellence Directory 

Ep 2146: Building a Business with a Kingdom Mindset

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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What if the place you go to relax, connect, or compete could also become the place where lives are eternally changed? In this episode, Jim and Martha sit down with Ron “3-Putt” Potter and Wes Kliner of Challenge Golf to explore how a simple game is being used to share the Gospel in powerful, intentional ways. 

From corporate careers and the courtroom to full-time ministry, Ron and Wes share how God redirected their paths toward something far greater in this season of life. Through free golf events, meaningful relationships, and strategic follow-up, Challenge Golf is reaching people who might never step foot in a church – creating space for authentic connection and life-changing conversations about faith. 

What you’ll hear in this episode: 

• How Challenge Golf uses free events and relationships to reach unchurched golfers 

• The approach of serving unbelieving and unchurched attendees 

• A powerful story of a life changed years after attending a single event  

• The heart behind their “million golfers” vision and what’s driving their growth 

• How retirement can become a launchpad for Kingdom impact, not a slowdown 

• Details on their new 18-week discipleship program designed to guide next steps in faith  

• Ways churches and individuals can get involved without financial barriers 

Challenge Golf is more than an outreach. It’s a reminder that God can use anything we love when we surrender it to Him. Whether you’re swinging a club, leading a business, or stepping into retirement, your everyday spaces can become sacred ground. 

If you’ve ever wondered how to live more intentionally in your current season, this conversation will inspire you to see your influence – and your hobbies – through a Kingdom lens. 

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Make Kingdom impact through the companies and services you use: 

• Protect your devices from the ever-multiplying cyber schemes that want to steal your money, your information, and your joy. Get SaferNet – a VPN with antivirus, Internet controls, and web filters: https://www.safernet.com  

• Make the switch to Patriot Mobile, America’s only Christian conservative cell phone service provider. Get a free month of service when you sign up with code IWORK4HIM: https://www.patriotmobile.com/iwork4him 

• Get connected to the US Christian Chamber of Commerce by joining or starting your local chamber: https://www.uschristianchamber.com 

Featuring: Ron “3-Putt” Potter & Wes Kliner 

Ministry: Challenge Golf 

Ep 2145: An Invitation to God’s Mulligan for Life

iWork4Him with Jim & Martha Brangenberg

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“Jesus is the Ultimate Mulligan”

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Great words from our phenomenal guest and retired PGA Tour Pro, Wally Armstrong, who joined Jim, along with local CBMC Chair, Mark Graham, for a chat on ministry on the golf course. It was a great hour filled with laughs, testimony, heartfelt conversation and some pretty neat golf tips 🙂

Christian Business Men’s Connection (CBMC) is a fantastic ministry that is located in 360 cities around the world.  Local chapters of CBMC provide leadership institutes, forums, and roundtables for men who are CEOs, GMs, entrepreneurs, and business professionals to help them become the marketplace leaders that God wants them to be.

I know, I know, that all sounds great, but what does that have to do with golf? 

Well – it can be hard to invite a coworker or employee to go to church… but what if you invited them to go hear a pro-golfer speak? That’s exactly what CBMC did! Wally Armstrong is not only a retired pro-golfer but also a speaker, author, and incredible evangelist. Tune in to hear more about Wally’s personal story and how he ties the gospel to golf in his new book, The Mulligan.

Featured Guest: Wally Armstrong; Mark Graham 

Workplace/Ministry: Christian Business Men’s Connection; The Mulligan