5/7/25 - 2093: Beyond the Bottom Line

Jim: You've tuned into iWork4Him, the voice of collaboration for the Faith and Work movement. Our mission is to inspire every workplace believer to recognize their workplace as their ministry place, where they work with God every day. What can that look like in your workplace? Let's find out right now as we head off to Arizona.

It's a simple question, really. Can a fastener manufacturer be a chuRCh? We talk all the time about our workplace being our ministry place, our mission field. Can our workplace be a chuRCh, a place to worship, work, heal, and minister? After today's show, you will no doubt answer this question with a resounding heck yeah!

Rick Johnson's life was miraculously transformed by Jesus. Oh, and he runs a manufacturing company with his wife Chris. He's here to tell us his story along with a couple of friends of his that work with him as well, to inspire us all and challenge every one of us to recognize our workplace as a chuRCh place. Rick, Chris, Jake, and Jon, welcome to iWork4Him.

Chris Johnson: Thank you for having us.

Jim: All [00:01:00] right, so I wanna know Jesus stories here. I wanna hear some Jesus stories because this story wouldn't even be possible without sharing our story about what's Jesus doing in our lives. So Rick, why don't you start us off and we'll work around the, we'll work around the room.

Rick Johnson: Yeah. I got saved at a Billy Graham Crusade at 13. And just kinda lived the casual Christian life for most of my life. And then, through a lot of adversity, through losing part of my family, my mom, my dad, and my sister, and in about 11 months just my world got rocked and brought me to my knees and went through a lot of suffering, a lot of hardship, about three and a half years of that.

And in that suffering, man, I learned about a love that was greater than I had ever experienced before. And that transformed my life and we gave everything to God. The company became his and our lives and everything we had, we gave to him. Awesome Story [00:02:00] only that he can do.

Jim: How many years ago was that, Rick?

Rick Johnson: Let's see, that was 2008. And so it's been God's company for quite a while now. And yeah, it's, there's two totally contrasting stories.

Jim: And Chris, when Rick went through that, were you right alongside of him? Was your life transforming at the same time?

Chris Johnson: Yes, at the same time we were trying to take care of everything and that's when I went all in. And then we got baptized too. After that point the whole family did. So we got baptized and he was reading his Bible a lot more and he was listening to worship music and it took him several years to get out of his depression or anxiety, whichever way you wanna call it. But he's all cured and he's been teaching about Jesus the whole time.

Jim: What's fantastic is that transformation impacted your business, didn't it, Rick?

Rick Johnson: Absolutely. It impacted everything, impacted our business, our lives, everything.

Jim: And Jon and Jake, that's why you guys are here today, because [00:03:00] the business that you work within has a culture that I'm guessing is not like any other that you've worked at. Jake, it, how long have you worked at RC Fastener?

Jacob Pearson: I've been at RC about a year and a half maybe, give or take.

Jim: Okay. So it's safe to say you've worked a few other jobs before this.

Jacob Pearson: Oh, most definitely, yes.

Jim: Is this the most unusual place you've ever worked at?

Jacob Pearson: It really is, but it's also fascinating and just the appreciation everybody has for each other is just amazing. We're not employees, we're family. We're family.

Jim: Yeah. So let me just ask this question. Have you ever worked for another business owner that said he was a Christian?

Jacob Pearson: I have in the past.

Jim: Was it different than, I'm not gonna ask you to say names. Was it different than the environment you're working under with Rick? My guess is yes, night and day. And that's what we're seeing across the country. Jon. Now, [00:04:00] how long have you worked for RC Fastener?

Jon Olsen : I think next month it'll be eight years.

Jim: So it's a long time. So you've seen, you've experienced some of this transition. You've seen some of those changes over time. Have you ever worked for somebody else who called themselves a Christian?

Jon Olsen : Not exactly. I actually was very blessed to go from one job with a good boss to RC Fasteners. The other boss I had, he never called himself a Christian. He actually said he was more aligned with Buddhism. So working under a Christian boss, Rick and Chris are the first two.

Jim: Awesome. So you could break them in too and help them in the whole thing. Rick, you told me that you've been in business 22 years. The first half was way different than the second half. Tell us a little bit of that story.

Rick Johnson: Yeah, the first half was just, believing God was with you. But we were doing all the work. We're praying that he's with us with what we're doing and we're striving, working [00:05:00]seven days a week, 12, 14 hour days and everything was striving to make it happen. And really it was God in the backseat coming along for the ride, joining us in our work. And we didn't know any better. We didn't, we really didn't know any better. And after 11 years, we didn't have anything to show for. We had nothing to show for it at all.

Jim: What do you mean? Like you had no money? You had no, what do you mean?

Rick Johnson: Yeah, we really didn't, we were still in debt and weren't able to save any money, and when we went all in for the Lord, that's when everything started to change. So everything completely changed and we started doing things we hadn't done before.

And that was stepping out in faith and moving into a building three times the size we were in. And started serving with a chuRCh across the street, delivering food to homeless pantries and chuRChes. And God was teaching us how to serve, how to serve the community. For six years we did that.

So all kinds of things started changing. God started opening doors for [00:06:00] us, and what we saw is we were now joining him in his work versus him joining us in ours. And it allowed us to take this into - it became a ministry. And we like to say we're a ministry created for God's glory working undeRCover as a fastener company. Our mission is to plant a seed every day because someone's life depends on it. So that's really our mission.

Jim: So Chris, a wife always has different perspective than a husband. And you were living those same first 11 years where Rick's saying, Hey, we had nothing to show for it. What was your frustration level after those 11 years? How deep was that frustration with being a business owner and not seeming to reap any of the rewards?

Chris Johnson: Those were tough years. I got sick. Rick had to start the company without me for several months 'cause I got sick and I was in the hospital. But he kept on saying that God said we would never fail. But after 11 years, we weren't really, we were growing, but not leaps and bounds or anything else like that. But once we [00:07:00] gave it all to God and we had the office all blessed here and everything, we had people come in and anoint the walls and stuff, everything started to change. We started having bigger sales. A lot more companies were coming on board. We've seen changing of lives in the second half of 22 years.

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Jake, what I wanna know is, you came after all of these transitions, after Rick and Chris had gone all in and really turned the reins over to, to God for running this business. What attracted you to even [00:08:00] apply for the job?

Jacob Pearson: Honestly, my fiance was climbing all over me 'cause I was a tow driver for three years.

Jim: Okay. Oh man, those are tough jobs.

Jacob Pearson: And about the fourth time I almost got hit, she said, that's it. You're done. I need you to find another job. Like I'm not gonna have you killing yourself. And I said, okay, I understand. And I started looking. And the first thing that popped up on my Indeed was the ad for a warehouse at RC. And I applied and I think it was two days later, I got a phone call from Rick and I spent about, I wanna say a half hour to 45 minutes on the phone with Rick, before I even came in for an interview.

Jim: What attracted you to have that conversation? 'cause a lot of times those kind of conversations can be awkward, complete strangers talking about a job. You're wanting to impress him so you can get the job. Your fiance is wanting you to impress him so you can get off the tow truck. What was it that kept you on the phone that [00:09:00] day?

Jacob Pearson: I was very new in my faith. My fiance and I had just got baptized at North Valley ChuRCh here in Phoenix, and I was looking for a company that was more structured Christian- wise , so I could have Sundays, I could have time with my family, I could have my time to dedicate to the Lord the way he deserves. And as I was growing in my faith, that was a real integral part of my choice.

Jim: Wow. And when you went in for that interview, how could you tell that yep, this is the place I wanna work? 'cause it's one thing to get offered a job, but it's the other thing to accept the job. 'cause you weren't just looking for a work, you were looking for a real change of environment. 'cause tow truck drivers get treated not very great by the customers and by their bosses because you're working night and day in the most dangerous places, some of the most dangerous places on the planet.

Jacob Pearson: Very true. The first day I walked into RC I could already feel a difference, just the energy in the building. You knew that there was [00:10:00] definitely something there and we went in, sat down for the interview, and the overall interview was about 20 minutes. And then I think we spent about the next hour talking about the Lord and the word. And I said, you know what? I need to be here. I feel it. I need to be here. But all glory to God, they gave me a job offer and I've been there ever since.

Jim: And I understand that, so you're in charge of the warehouse and quality assurance. I understand the Warehouse has very unique wallpaper.

Jacob Pearson: Yes we have a board that we write God's miracles on, things that happen throughout the day, whenever it may be, whether somebody survived cancer or somebody had a baby, and we chart everything down. We date it, pretty much timestamp it. And when it's full, we tear it off and we tape it up on the wall in the warehouse.

Jim: That's really cool. Very cool. Rick, when you look at the biznistry that you're in - hats off to Chuck Proudfit outta Cincinnati, Ohio who patented or copyrighted [00:11:00] that word, biznistry -when you look at your biznistry RC Fastener, what's your ministry look like to your employees?

Rick Johnson: I think they know that this is God's company and they know that when they come here, they're gonna get edified, they're gonna get built up, they're gonna be told that there's value in you, there's treasure in you, and God wants to bring that treasure out.

So it's much more than, it's much more than a job or anything like that. It's really truly investing in your best asset, and that's your people. And when you invest in your people, we like to say, God told me, I felt it in my spirit those first 11 years, Rick, you got this all wrong. You've been going after the fruit these last 11 years, and you're chasing success. You're chasing money, you're chasing growth. You're doing it all wrong. You need to go after the root, which is people. Which is me, seeking me first with all your [00:12:00] heart.

Jim: I heard that one other place... seek first.... (laughter) there's a verse about that!

Rick Johnson: Matthew 6:33. And then when we started doing that, really investing in people, then he started taking care of the fruit. So that's when things became a little, a lot easier.

Jim: A high level of intentionality for sure. Chris, you've got file cabinets in the background. Everybody's, if you're not look watching us on YouTube, you should go out to our YouTube channel - iWork4Him. That's I work the number 4 him and check out all of the videos. Every interview we do is also video as well. So it's on the podcast streams all over the place, but also on video.

So Chris, you've got file cabinets and purple walls. But that makes me think you're doing, you're paying some bills 'cause you're, that's your filing system. You're paying some bills, you're dealing with suppliers, vendors, you're dealing with those kinds of people. What does your ministry look like to them?

Chris Johnson: To our customers?

Jim: No, let's talk about to the people that you pay.

Chris Johnson: All the people that we pay. Yeah. Some of them are Christians, some of them are not.

Jim: So what's that ministry look like?

Chris Johnson: It all depends. You have to feel the people out. We always tell everybody, [00:13:00]God bless at the end of the day, or when I see customers and everything, and once I know that they are somewhat on the fence and everything, I talk with them about Jesus and we go from there. So it gets started slowly and when we go out on the road, now I have my Christian friends out there, so we talk about it. We even pray about certain things, when I'm out at a customer's place. So to go ahead and take care of problems, because problems always arise. It's a joint venture.

Jim: So Rick, though, that ministry goes deeper to your suppliers and your vendors, because sometimes without suppliers, your vendors, you can't work. You need what they're selling you. What does that ministry look like to you as a business owner? And you're muted. So don't answer me till you unmute, but what does that look like? Because there's opportunities for lots of interaction with those people.

Rick Johnson: You're talking about, you're talking about the customers or who?

Jim: No, the vendors, your suppliers, the people that give you the stuff you need in order to be able to sell it to your customers. I'm gonna ask Jon the customer [00:14:00] question.

Rick Johnson: Here's a prime example, is we get tested on our integrity a lot. And Proverbs 11 says, a false balance is an abomination to the Lord.

So there's a lot of times where we will get tested where a supplier will over ship us. A pretty recent one was we had a supplier bill us for a thousand dollars and we called them and we said, Hey we need to talk to accounting. And so they patch us over and, yeah, what do you need? What do you need? We're like, Hey, we got a problem with an invoice, and Oh, what's the problem? What's the problem?

We're like you billed us for a thousand dollars on this invoice. She goes, yeah, that's correct. You should have billed this for an extra zero, 10,000. And she like dropped the phone and she got back on the phone and she said, do you know, first of all, in all my 40 years of doing this, I've never had anybody call with something like this.

And we would've never caught this, if you wouldn't have told us that. So Jim, these are, and Jake and Jon and [00:15:00] Chris can, everybody can tell you story after story where we're calling our suppliers and saying, Hey, your warehouse made a mistake. They over shipped us. We talked to purchasing, we'll keep the parts. Go ahead and bill us for em. And we see those as little tests of integrity.

And we are gonna honor God. 'cause his grace is upon this company and upon our lives. And we want him honored and he gets glorified. 'cause people, they look you up on your website and they see what you're about. And they go okay. All right. I get that. And I have the employees call now. So the employees call when there's over shipments and they get to taste of what responses the suppliers will come back with and. Many of 'em are blown away.

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Alright, so Jon, customers are the other side of it. And since you're in charge of inside sales, which means you get stuck in an office talking on the phone all day long, but you're developing relationships, what does that ministry for RC Fastener look like to your customers?

Jon Olsen : So for the customer side, anybody that calls on the phone, anybody that sends an email, anybody that sends the fax, anybody that walks in, is an opportunity to share the love of Jesus with that person. We do get a lot of walk-ins. A guy [00:17:00] comes in, he's Hey, I got this old screw a need for my lawnmower. Can you supply it for me?

We say we can try, if we got it, we always try and help. That's the first thing. We have Christian music playing, so while they're sitting in our lobby waiting they get to listen to Christian music. We have a whole table full of Christian merchandise and books, even little gospel Bibles that they can go through and look while they're just sitting there waiting. So they have all that information at their fingertips when they come in.

Jim: But what about when the customer transaction doesn't go perfect. How does RC Fastener stand out? You, I know you handle things differently. What does that look like when, hey, you've got a customer situation and it didn't go perfect. There's no blue ribbon on the top and there was no candles blown out and candy attached to the - what, what happens, what do you do? How do you handle it differently than a typical fastener company?

Jon Olsen : Shoot, we try and fix it. I should say we've been trying for many of those exact situations where let's say we made a mistake. Let's say something went wrong [00:18:00] on our end, we'll be like, Hey, we're sorry we messed up. We made a mistake. Let's fix it. And we've air shipped parts on our dime to get customers out of trouble because of a mistake we made. We've had parts worked, even stuff that's not our mistake. We have bent over backwards to help the customer for no reason other than we want to help them and we want to get them out of trouble.

There was an example, I remember there was one a few years ago, a big customer of ours that was in trouble. Like they needed parts like within a week. And their customer, who is a giant automotive manufacturer, was copied on all this, and they were saying like, you guys need to get this fixed, even though it wasn't our fault.

And we prayed about it and Rick was involved and he went to our vendor and he's Hey guys, what can we do to get our customer outta trouble and after praying about it, that's the main, that's the key thing, is after praying about it, the vendor's Hey, we have [00:19:00] one other guy that buys this part.

We're gonna go see if they have any extra stock laying around. Lo and behold, the next day they come back and they're like, Hey, this other guy who's the only other person that buys this specific part, not only has parts but is willing to give them to you and ships 'em back to us, we get the customer out of trouble. They're super happy.

And I'll never forget, Rick had written an email and he said, Hey, we prayed about this and we and God was able to come through for us. He said that to the customer directly. And I'll never forget that. I was like that's the main highlight of what we strive to do is to honor God with how we present ourselves, especially when things don't go right.

Jim: Because things are not gonna always go right Rick? They're gonna have trouble.

Rick Johnson: Yeah. I wanna jump in on that story a little bit because I was defending in the email, this was to a very big car manufacturer, and I was defending our stance. I'm writing [00:20:00] this email, I'm going to town, and I'm saying, we're not at fault, and I just felt God stopped me in my spirit and to tell me to erase all that.

So I erased it all and I said, we're a company of faith and we're praying for a miracle. And I left it at that and I shot the email to him because I remember God saying, I will get justice, says the Lord. And so I did that, and then that's when the miracle happened. If I would've went in there and kept defending and defending - God is our defender. And then that's when as Jon mentioned, that's when we were able to come back and we were able to boast about what God did.

Jim: Oh, that's awesome.

Rick Johnson: And that person did not reply. There was like seven people copied on that email. But I'll tell you what, this one girl replied back and she said, I love it. I love how God came through again and we were [00:21:00] praising God together, just her and I. But it was super cool.

Jim: I love that. Jake, I'm guessing 'cause you're working in the warehouse, not everybody that you work with is a Jesus follower. And typical people working, not to stereotype, but typical people working in a warehouse, maybe a little bit more of the rough and tumble types. How do you keep it different?

Jacob Pearson: We did have an individual with us that wasn't a true follower, I would say, or at least I didn't see him as such by his actions. But there's three of us out there and we are very faith driven there. There's no doubt about it that all three of us out there are men of faith. So in other work circumstances, yes. I could say there's many people I work I've worked with that weren't followers, but that is not the case at RC.

Jim: But how did you encourage the one that was struggling a little bit? What did you do to encourage them? Because not everybody's gonna be at the same step of their faith walk as others.

Jacob Pearson: Oh no. [00:22:00] Everybody's walk is different. But he did have the amount of faith where you could walk up and say, Hey man, do you mind if I pray with you for a minute, or do you mind if I read you a verse? And he would listen. He'd pray with you, he'd listen. He was going through some struggles and definitely needed to change his circumstance, and needed a lot of prayer. But it's one of those things that he needed to go figure out where he wanted to be.

Jim: Chris, I imagine you're in charge of payables and receivables, am I correct?

Chris Johnson: Correct.

Jim: Okay, so payables one of those things. How do you glorify God with your payables?

Chris Johnson: That's a good question. We go ahead and we are integral. If they over ship us, I go ahead and pay the over shipment part, contact the vendors and, tell them that. Hey, like we just had one on some bolts from one of the customers and then we ordered [00:23:00] 300 and they shipped us 310 and they were $30 a piece.

So we called them and told 'em and I went ahead and just told 'em that I was gonna pay off the bill. I told 'em that I trusted them and they didn't need to send me a revised invoice that I'll go ahead and just pay it off, the old one, and just pay the current charges and they were really appreciative. I even gotta Thank you email today from them that it took a while for them to get it, but they said they were really appreciative.

Jim: But a lot of times when we have bills that we owe vendors and they're 30 days net or 60 days net or whatever, and a lot of times I find business owners stretch out as far as they can before they have to pay their bills.

Chris Johnson: No, I'm 30, 35 days allowed. The most I've ever gone is like 45 days and that's because we've had issues with the vendor and so we're trying to get it resolved, but I'm pretty, pretty much 35 days, you're paid. I like to, because I want to have our credit rating and be [00:24:00] integral. And I've dealt with people who stretched their money out.

As far as receivables, we have customers that our terms are net 30 days, but they pay at 45. Some of 'em paying 60, but at 60 days from invoice, I'll put them on hold and they won't get off hold until they pay their bill.

Jim: But that's one of those tough things. 'cause you're a Jesus follower. You're supposed to be nice, you're supposed to give 'em a break, but you're actually trying to collect your receivables. How do you balance that? Hey, you need to pay, we gave you something. And balance that with the Jesus approach.

Chris Johnson: I try to, when they hit 45 days, I go ahead and start sending emails, start doing phone calls, and I'm really polite about it. And then I also tell 'em that at 60 days the computer puts you on hold and there's nothing that I can do. And you'd be surprised how quickly when a customer needs parts and they're at 60 days and they're on credit hold, boy, that money comes [00:25:00] really fast.

Jim: Oh, it's miraculous money. (laughter) Rick, we're almost outta time, but I wanted you to be able to speak to your manufacturing friends. I don't know what category you put yourself into, but you use supply parts, you get parts. Do you guys fabricate stuff too, as well?

Rick Johnson: No, we're a distributor. We're a wholesale distributor.

Jim: All right, so speak to those other wholesale distributors out there that love Jesus, that never, ever imagined saying, Hey, this is God's company, not mine. Speak some words of encouragement to them listening today.

Rick Johnson: Yeah, I think that's everything. Jim, it's really, truly is everything. It's God is, he's in our lives every day. He's with us every day. But we're usually the ones running the show. And it's totally different when we spend time with him. Every morning we spend time with him, we put up the armor of God on in the morning we're in His word and his prayer.

Lord, direct me, I commit my works to you, ask that you direct my steps, my thoughts, my [00:26:00]actions and it's totally different. And then you're waiting on him to lead you and guide you through the business. So my message is if you haven't surrendered your company to the Lord, what are you waiting for?

Because everything is his it's his company. It's his money, it's his, everything is his. So that's where I was - I didn't know that. I didn't know these things in the first 11 years. And when we gave it all to the Lord, that's when everything changed. So being totally in debt the first 11 years and being debt free the last 11 years, and then at the same time doing ministry and being able to pour into people's lives, it doesn't make sense to the normal world, the normal manufacturing world.

Why would you invest in these employees? Why would you spend time in ministry? Why would you do Bible studies on Friday? Why would you do FCCI on Wednesday? Why would you do these things? Why do thankful Thursday? What? Why? It's because God has called us [00:27:00] to, and we've seen transformations happen here.

We've seen, we could go another couple hours, at least, Jim, and tell you about miracle stories, people's lives that were doomed, that were suicidal that God has completely transformed and there's no greater joy when God is using you in his company and you see the fruit from that, the fruit from your labor, the fruit from pouring into people, and you see what God does in their lives and then they take that home to their kids.

If they take it home to their wives and you start to see their wives, you start to see their family start to transform as they start eating the fruit from that. And it's awesome, Jim. There's nothing greater. And I want to tell you, it's just, it beats working for a living when it's God's company and you're working with him.

Miracles daily and we do, we see 'em. As Jon was saying, people coming in off the streets, it's an opportunity. We pray for opportunities to be able to minister to people. We will, we'll pray with our customers. We'll pray with our [00:28:00] suppliers whenever there's a need.

And it's just awesome. It's transformational. And if you're not using your company, if it's not God's company, surrender that to the Lord and watch what he does. Watch the peace and the joy that'll come over you as he leads you and guides you to really use your business as a ministry.

Jim: Cool. Jake, speak to those warehouse guys out there that are listening today that don't usually get very much encouragement to live out their faith. Speak to them for a minute.

Jacob Pearson: If you guys aren't chasing God and giving it your all and that first, then you're just doing it wrong.

Chris Johnson: Amen.

Jacob Pearson: My life has totally transformed since I fully gave over. And I have Rick and Chris and everybody at RC and everybody at church that's like family to me. And my life is a hundred percent for the better. I'm happy to go to work. We have fun, we work hard, we play hard. But to come in every day to a place where you see everybody smiling and the first thing they say is, Hey, good morning. And give you a hug. It's gotta be faith first.

Jim: [00:29:00] Very beautiful. Jon, you're in sales, you're talking to people all the time, and you need them to buy stuff from you to pay your bills. Talk to other salespeople out there that are trying to change the world at the same time living out their faith.

Jon Olsen : I wouldn't say you need to separate it because you don't. It's where's your focus at? If your focus is on making money, then you're not, like Jake said, you're not doing it right. If you're focusing on loving your neighbors, who is anyone that you come in contact with, anyone that enters your sphere of influence, that's your neighbor.

It doesn't matter what you're doing, whether it's sales, warehouse, accounting, running a hotdog stand, whatever, can be anything. If you're just there to love your neighbors and help 'em because you want to and because you know the Lord God who created you said to do that, then it completely changes the dynamic.

It's totally different than just I'll sell you fasteners. Yeah, whatever. Selling fasteners is the [00:30:00]same as selling anything else. You're just trying to sell it. But if you are doing it in a way that can glorify God, holy mackerel, is that a game changer. It doesn't matter.

Jim: Speaking of game changers, Chris, most bookkeepers, most accountants, they're in the background. Nobody talks to 'em. People forget they're there, except when they want a bill paid or they want a paycheck. Speak to those people that are behind the scenes. People out there, Chris, that, that are doing the payables, doing the receivables, probably doing the payroll and everything else. Give them some encouragement today.

Chris Johnson: You go ahead and put God first in your company, in everything that you do. Accounting is not really a glorified job without having Christ in the center of the of the work day. But when I have a problem and I can't solve it, I always say a prayer. When I'm trying to balance our accounts and they don't balance, it's God, please tell me or help me go ahead and balance. And then all of a sudden I get a popup in my head [00:31:00] and the problem is solved.

Jim: When you get a popup in your head, does it make a noise? (laughter)

Chris Johnson: No, but it's somebody talking to me and say, Hey, check this out, or not check this out, but go ahead and see where this is. And then I go ahead and follow what they tell me in my head and 99% of the time I balance or I solve the problem or things like that. It makes it really easy when you put God in the center of everything.

Jim: Very cool. Rick, any final words?

Rick Johnson: I'm just so proud of these guys. I'm proud of what God's doing in their lives. Everybody on this screen, I love 'em dearly and just so thankful. All of us are transformed. We've seen God do amazing things in our lives, in this business, and, Jim, I don't think it would've happened if we didn't give him the business, if we didn't surrender to him.

And these last 10 11, 12 years have been I know my wife and I have been the best years in our [00:32:00] lives because we've seen God use a business for his glory. And these guys on the screen, Jon and Jake I can't tell you and Chris, I'm just so proud of them the way they first came into how they are now.

I've seen the before and after, and it's just a privilege and an honor to see these young men and my wife and the way they handle things differently now. They handle it with peace and joy and they don't, they're not taking gasoline to the fires. They're taking water to the fire.

We have fires break out here all the time and they're with customers and people in trouble. And my wife is a prime example. She handles accounting so beautifully now. It wasn't always that way. And then she would get easily upset because there's some people that are tough to deal with, but I just praise God for these guys and our entire team. And I thank God with all my heart for what he's done in their lives.

Jim: It's a great story and there's lots more out there, to read about this story on their website, RC Fastener.com. And if you need some fasteners, I think you ought to check 'em out. They could ship to anywhere in the US I imagine, RC Fastener.com. [00:33:00] Rick and Chris, Jon and Jake, thanks for being on iWork4Him today.

Chris Johnson: Thanks, Jim. We appreciate it.

Rick Johnson: Thanks for having us, Jim.

Jim: You've been listening to iWork4Him with your host, Jim Brangenberg. I'm a Christ follower, my workplace, it's my mission field, but ultimately iWork4Him.