Power of OR Podcast

Discovering How God Leads in Business… One Question at a Time

The goal of every Power of OR Podcast episode is to provide a lively, unfiltered, unedited, unfettered, and unscripted conversation with a businessperson. We will explore their daily work and see if we can uncover a powerful "OR" moment facing our guest.

Get ready to access the wisdom of God for the solutions man seeks! With

Hosts: Brad Hawkins (SaferNet) & Jim Brangenberg (iWork4Him)

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Ep 14: The Secret to a Meaningful Life

What if the greatest impact you ever make comes not from fame or success, but simply from loving people well? In this moving episode of the Power of OR, longtime chaplain Paul Nichols shares how decades of quiet faithfulness, compassion, and Christ-centered love transformed lives on factory floors, in hospital rooms, and through life’s hardest moments. His story is a powerful reminder that a life fully surrendered to God can leave an eternal legacy. 

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Ep 13: Leadership Starts at Home

Parenting is shaped in the small moments – how you respond, not just what you say. In this episode, Dr. Miles Mettler shares why the choice between reacting and responding can define your family’s future and how leading yourself well is the first step to leading your kids well. 

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Ep 10: Life After the NFL: Finding Identity Beyond Football

Former NFL offensive lineman Tim Kohn shares his journey from a suicidal teenager to the Raiders locker room – and ultimately to a faith that reshaped his identity. In this episode, he reflects on being cut multiple times, rebuilding after football, and how God’s hand often becomes clearest in hindsight. Because the real victory isn’t making it big – it’s discovering who God made you to be beyond the game. 

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