3/4/26 - 2136: The Future of Christian Business in Maryland

Jim: This is iWork4Him.

Martha: Where Faith meets work and believers unleash their calling.

Jim: Maryland is such a great state, such a melting pot of cultures and such a wide variety of businesses and organizations, and of course it's smacked up against Washington DC, so they also have influence over the nation as well.

Maryland is urban, suburban, rural, and farmland and so much more. It's a state that I lived in for just seven years growing up. But it's part of my heritage and part of my story. I first met Jesus in a little church near Ellicott City, but Maryland has been missing one huge thing: a Christian Chamber of Commerce, focused on the unique needs of Christians in the marketplace.

Dr. Nicole Davis saw that need and responded. She's moved forward as the founder of the Maryland Christian Chamber of Commerce and the 19th of March 2026 it will officially launch. Nicole is here today to share the story behind this amazing startup with her husband Tony and Sonny Norris will be joining her as well as one of the next gen founding members to tell his story of why he's involved as well.

Dr. Nicole Davis, Tony Davis, and Sonny Norris, welcome to iWork4Him.

Tony Davis: Thank you.

Dr. Nicole Davis: Thank you. We're so glad and excited to be here.

Jim: We are ecstatic to have you guys here. We've been walking alongside the story with you. I don't even remember the first time we talked, Nicole, but when I heard about Maryland, I was so excited because it is part of my story. It's a small part of my story, but it's part of my story. And I know that on the Eastern seaboard this is a significant thing. But Nicole and Tony and Sonny, before we get started, just really short, we always, for first time guests on the show, we always ask you to share your Jesus story.

So really short 'cause we want to cover a lot of other stuff, but ladies first, Nicole, tell us your Jesus story.

Dr. Nicole Davis: Okay, really quickly, I did not grow up in the church and as soon as I could, once I graduated from high school, I went into the military to give myself a chance at life. It was there in the military in Iceland where I met Jesus. It was not in a church, but it was in a barracks with my dungarees on at a singles fellowship. And someone else there from another branch of the military, I believe.

Tony Davis: No, he's Navy.

Dr. Nicole Davis: He was navy, would see us in the gym quite often. And he attended that fellowship Bible study. And he asked me then, he said, I've always seen you walking around with your friend, but I've been afraid to talk to you - do you know Jesus? And I was at a point in my life where I wanted change, but I didn't know it was Jesus. That was the change I needed.

And while "no" was in my mind, because you always know what you can't do once you become a Christian, "yes" came out of my mouth and I gave my life to Jesus in that instance. And just knowing that Jesus would choose me in the wretched state that I was, I've committed my life ever since then to serve him with everything I have. So that's it. And a real quick story.

Jim: In Iceland?

Dr. Nicole Davis: Yes, in Iceland.

Martha: Wow.

Jim: I think you're the very first person that we've interviewed on iWork4Him in the last 13 years, and over 5,000 people, that got saved in Iceland. That's fantastic. All right. Tony, what about you?

Tony Davis: I'm the complete opposite. I grew up in the church. As a matter of fact, I was the kid who was always in Sunday school. My brother and I, we earned our allowance by learning 40 scriptures, whether like Psalm 13, Psalm 23, the Beatitudes, whatever. That's how I earned a little $2 per week. And my brother earned his $2 and 10 cents per week because he was older. (chuckling)

But as I grew up I saw the ineffectiveness of the church, so when I went into the military, I tried to backslide but it didn't work. I try to go to a club. Other people can go to the club. I go to a club, I get into the fight, right? Just crazy stuff. And I was almost like Jonah. It was like, get him out of here.

But even during that time in Iceland, my grandfather died. And it was something about his death as an adult that made me realize the reality of life and death. So during that time, I got serious with my faith and I said, you know what, Lord? I'm gonna really be sold out and committed to you. And then coming back to Iceland, so while I didn't get saved in there, because like I saved way before that, coming back, I met this woman who met me when I came back telling me that she got saved. And that changed the whole dynamics of our relationship, 'cause I was that friend at the gym that the guy always saw her with. He was just with a squadron that was there visiting.

Jim: You were just friends then.

Tony Davis: We were, Jim, we really were. We worked the same schedule. So we lifted weights together, played racquetball together, played basketball together, but we were really, truly just friends with no intention.

Jim: But that's the best part of it. When you marry your best friend, that's when marriage is easy, when you marry your best friend. Martha and I were friends for years.

Martha: And also duly noted when you were starting that friendship, you were not gonna be equally yoked. And so obviously God's timing was beautiful in all of that.

Dr. Nicole Davis: Perfect. Yes, indeed.

Martha: Alright, Sonny, tell us your Jesus story.

Sonny Norris: Similar to Nicole, it's nothing close to what's on the screen today. I grew up in the uptown streets of Washington, DC, and growing up, being born and raised in DC I was exposed to a lot of street culture and unfortunately I got engaged in some of that as well.

And, the journey that God took me on is so unique and I'm so grateful for it. Just being out there in the streets, just being in involved in so many different things. I had a friend who actually went to church and he would always try to get us to go to the church that was on the same block that we were out there doing bad things on.

And he used to always tell me that once I gave my life to Christ, he said he always saw something in me, that once I gave my life to Christ, God'll use me and my influence to be impactful to the world. It was through more bad decisions where I found myself locked up right in the prison cell and I heard his voice again there, my best friend telling me, once you change your life, God will do something great for you. And I don't know if it was just one of those prayers that I did. When we're in trouble, we say, God, you get me outta this, i'm gonna do whatever is possible to try change my life around. But it was really in that moment that it started to make sense.

And from there it's really not, nothing that I've done. It's not a magical go in a closet and change and I'm saved story. It was literally life event after life event. God was just pulling me along, and he never let go of me. So that's my story. And from there he took me to do Christian hip hop and go back to the same streets that I was saved from and I was robbing on, in the same neighborhoods that I was being locked up in, and preaching the gospel to those people.

So that's been my ministry since the time I've been saved, just going back to the same places I was saved from and preaching the gospel.

Jim: Did you prepare any hip hop for the Maryland Christian Chamber of Commerce launch event? (laughter)

Sonny Norris: No. I'm still catching up on the music that Tony sent me when we were at lunch a couple weeks ago, with the crossover movement, so I don't have time for that. I'm in a different phase of life.

Jim: It would not be the first time on iWork4Him, but, okay. All right, Martha.

Martha: So thank you each for sharing your Jesus story 'cause we know that our listeners can either be encouraged that, where you might have been might be similar to their situation. We often struggle with " my story doesn't sound like theirs" but God works in each of our lives in different ways. So thank you for sharing that.

Okay. So Nicole, we're gonna jump right in here and in our view, looking in, okay, up until now I hope your life's been maybe looking a little more simple than it's gonna look in the next few months. And this last year, as you have, under God's prompting, started this process of launching the Maryland Christian Chamber. So how do you see that God has been preparing you over the years for this new role that you're in now?

Dr. Nicole Davis: Yeah I heard in Jim's opening that I saw the need and then stepped into it. I wish that were the case. (laughter) I was not paying attention to the need. I was living my life with my family and what I believe was the work that I was supposed to do, and that's from social work. My undergrad is in social work, so I've done community work for a very long time. My doctorate is in conflict analysis and resolution, and with my military background and working in the federal government, I've worked with leaders for years, and then I do a lot of work with the court system, so I'm around government stuff all the time.

And it's all of these parts. And in the church I've been a director of women's ministries and I'm an ordained pastor actually. And so all of this has equipped me and prepared me. Even with my family, just the things we've done together and learning to work together and overcome challenges has all been a critical part of preparing me to now lead others as they build what they believe God is calling them to, as well as their families, and leaving none behind as you build or work towards whatever dreams and aspirations you have. All of that has been used to get me here.

Jim: And I imagine you've started to see, "huh? I guess that's why I learned that 20 years ago. Huh. I guess that's why I learned that 10 years ago." I imagine you've seen some of that come into play. When we first started talking, and I should have gone back to look to see when the first day we talked, we talked about the journey that you'd have to go on to set up the Maryland Christian Chamber. By the way, if you're wondering, you're listening, MD christian chamber.com. If you're anywhere in Maryland, this Christian Chamber is for you. We talked about the recruiting of a board. Talk to us about how you saw God working in that journey of recruiting.

Dr. Nicole Davis: Yeah, so in our initial conversation, a lot of what we talked about is that I was not anxious and that I was gonna trust the Lord's leading and prompting for how it is, or was, that I was going to select the different people. And we had conversations about gender. We had conversation about nationality, because I wanted to really be sensitive to what it would take to build a board that would represent all the people that would be coming along to be a part of this.

And so I have been intentional about considering all of those things in the selection process. And there were some people that I thought, yes, but then God would make it so that it wouldn't happen. There were people that would say, yes, and then their lives would fall apart in a way that they then had to walk away. And so I was really listening. Okay, God, I see that, okay, it wasn't that person. And then the next person would come right in and it was like, oh my goodness. Or a position shift. I thought the person was for one position.

So I've really made it my point to listen for God's leading. And that's with the time I spend with him in prayer before I'm making these decisions about these important positions.

Martha: And that's so important. It is often a temptation to just jump in and say, I know these five people, I'm gonna put 'em on. We're gonna be good. And your intentionality is going to be multifaceted in so many different ways. Okay, so one of the other things that you've done is you've been talking to people all over the state in town hall events. Tell us about that.

Dr. Nicole Davis: Oh yes. So we've been doing listening sessions. We just had one this past Monday, and we have our ninth one next Friday. But the whole purpose of the listening sessions is to allow the voices of the people to help shape our strategic plan for what it is that we're going to cover throughout the state, because it's nothing worse than to come and tell people what they need or want without considering what they say.

And with my social science background, I've always cared about people, as you say, what has prepared me for this position. That's always been a part of how I operate, which makes it easy for people to wanna work with me and be a part of what I'm doing. And that has really helped us.

So in these meetings, we're having panel conversations about opportunities and challenges that they're seeing, and trying to work with churches and business and faith-based organizations and communities. And what do they see as the chambers role and ability to help foster these connections and these relationships? So they have been powerful. People love them and they look forward to them. They said, please don't stop doing these after you launch. And they may be different, but we won't stop.

Jim: Yeah. I just love it. And most people are not familiar. They think of Maryland, they think just right on the coast. They don't realize how far inland Maryland goes, all the way to West Virginia. I don't how many miles it is, but it's gotta be 300 miles from Coast or from east to west. Is it?

Tony Davis: I don't know the miles, but I know it takes us about three, yeah, three hours from Owings Mills to get through West Morgantown to go into Pittsburgh. I know that. And then it takes about three hours to go south towards Ocean City.

Martha: Wow.

Tony Davis: So it's a drive.

Jim: Several hundred, on I 95. It depends on which time of day. All right. I know you've had a lot of fun 'cause I've been following you on LinkedIn gathering founding members. Every day it seems like you're posting a new founding member and you're heading towards this launch on March the 19th.

How fun has it been finding these people that said I wanna be a part of founding the Maryland Christian Chamber of Commerce?

Dr. Nicole Davis: Very.

 (laughter)

Jim: Oh, that was really good.

Martha: There you go. You said short answer.

Jim: There we go. Tony, give us your perspective. You're not involved in the day-to-day yet you, because this is your bride, you're involved in every bit of this. Talk to us about your perspective from the outside. How have you seen God working in all of this?

Tony Davis: My perspective is really still on the inside 'cause I am the director of legal and legislative affairs with the chamber. But even as Nicole said, with her background and social work and mediation, she's always been trying to connect people and even being, even what you described with being intentional with the board let's put the away all those things that divide us and let's truly have a body that every joint supplies.

We quote this stuff in scripture and we say everybody, every body part is unique and necessary, but now we need to have an organization that really amplifies that and also emphasizes that so that we can see it all come together. So I think the most exciting thing for me is actually watching that come to fruition.

Jim: I love it. John 17 coming alive. Just, yeah, blossoming. Really awesome. Speaking of Christian Chambers, we aren't far away from the upcoming SWC 2026 Expo in Orlando in April of this year. April 22nd to 24th, that's the US Christian Chamber annually, semi-annual event, every other year annual event.

Dr. Nicole Davis: Bi-annual.

Jim: There you go. Thank you very much, Dr. Nicole. It's gonna be an immersive three day experience where Christian leaders unite to break barriers, build bold businesses, and advance the kingdom in the marketplace.

Martha and I have the privilege of MCing once again at this event. We can't wait to see in Orlando. Get signed up today. Go to swc2026.com and register using the code iWork4Him. That's I work the number 4 him. Get 20% off your ticket. How cool is that?

Martha: So we are very excited about that. And so we thank you, to everybody for listening to us talk about the Christian Chamber because this is a new idea to a lot of people. Sonny, I wanna address this to you now. How did you hear about the Maryland Christian Chamber?

Sonny Norris: Yeah I was just searching the internet, right? I talked to a business mentor of myself and, as a young entrepreneur, he pointed me to go look, be a part of some chambers of commerce. And so I was just searching the internet and the Christian chamber found me. It found me. And when I saw it, I said, huh, I didn't even know this existed, honestly. I was still new to what the chambers of commerce even meant to entrepreneurs like myself.

But I felt like there was no better way to be in a place where I can grow as a business owner and also spiritually. So when I seen that it was an opportunity I still didn't know exactly what I was getting myself into. But I'm so grateful that I chose to listen to God in that time. And because by the time I went to the first listening session, met Dr. Nicole and her family, I just knew I was in the right place.

But it came by me searching organically, looking to network and have different resources. When I found it, it was like, this is a match made in Heaven.

Jim: Anybody that says the Google is always the enemy, no, the Google right serves both sides, even if they did it inadvertently, but that's the power of these Christian Chambers. When we first started, when we first launched iWork4Him there were 19 Christian Chambers across the country, and it got down to 7. And now we're back up to, we will be by the end of 2026, there will be 30 and the US Christian Chamber really, well, what's the best word? Not curating, but holding, encouraging, supporting the Christian Chambers that are in all over the country.

It's stewarding. They're there to help lift up. It's incredible. You're a next generation leader. You're a next generational marketplace leader. What value are you gonna bring as a founding member to the Maryland Christian Chamber?

Sonny Norris: I think being the younger - and I told Dr. Nicole this before - I don't mind being like the face or you just use me if you wanna just put my face, my little baby face on everything just to market it. (laughing) And I'm not the youngest one in the chamber, that I just recently found out.

And it is different younger people that's coming about. But I think that, as my generation, we thrive off seeing our peers be successful and seeing what our peers are into as well and don't want to feel left behind. And I feel like this space, me being able to use my influence and my impact in this space as well will help drive and grow the empty chambers of commerce with other young people.

I think for us, when we see our counterparts in these positions, like when we posted that I am a founding member, so many people came and reached out to me because they didn't necessarily know what it was. But what they see is another young person, it looks like they're in a position, in a place where it is intriguing. And so I think that at minimum I'm looking to serve and to be able to grow and connect as many other young entrepreneurs to this as well.

You gotta have a business though. A lot of people wanna be a part of it that businesses aren't necessarily in place just yet or things like that. So when you come, you wanna make sure you come correct, 'cause when you get into the run with these people, you'll see why you want to be.

Dr. Nicole Davis: In business.

Sonny Norris: Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Martha: Such a great perspective. Okay, so let's look at the opposite side of that then. What do you see as a young entrepreneur that the value of being a member of the Maryland Chamber is going to bring to you? Where do you see that value coming from?

Sonny Norris: Tremendous value. And like I said, I saw it from the moment I went to my first listening party. I always knew that in order to grow, you gotta put yourself in places where you could be challenged. You gotta put yourself in places where some people, a lot of people might know a little bit more than you, right?

And that's biblically, that's in business. And you can't grow if you're stuck in a place and you're not being able to bounce your ideas off of people or bounce your journey off of people and getting poured into, and whether it was through the listening party that I went to, or even just having the lunch date with Dr. Nicole and Tony with my wife and my kids and just the level of leadership and the spiritual side that she was able to pour, I knew I was just in the right place, right?

And so as a young entrepreneur, especially with that, as millennials we feel like we have platforms, we have our voice, but I think that you also gotta be responsible and ground yourself in places where you can. So that's why it was super important for me to be in that space.

Jim: Yeah. A couple things you just said that I gotta highlight on, but what I love that as a young entrepreneur, one of the things you need in your life is an old entrepreneur.

Sonny Norris: Yeah.

Jim: We call them chronologically superior people.

Martha: Instead of old. (laughing)

Jim: That's right. And that's what the Christian Chamber is gonna provide for you too. You're gonna have access to people that it, made all the mistakes that you don't have to. That's fantastic.

But Dr. Nicole, did you catch what Sonny just said? These were not listening sessions. They were listening parties. (laughter)

That's how you rolled this out, Nicole. These were listening parties for the Maryland Christian Chamber, across Maryland. That is fantastic. What a great perspective. Because Sonny, you're so excited. It felt like a party because you're like, this is ministering to my soul. My soul is giddy with excitement. That's why it was party thing. I'm just guessing that's what it was.

Sonny Norris: And maybe it was the music background, the listening parties. Exactly. But all in all, it was a great, it was a great environment. So party, session, we having a good time.

Martha: That is excellent. You also commented and just I wanna highlight this, that you said your wife and your kids came to something as well, and I think that it's really critical as entrepreneurs that we make sure we don't segment our lives so much that our family doesn't know what we're doing and we don't know what our family's doing. And so I love hearing that, whatever it might have looked like, because that is such a critical role for our families to just be aware of how God is moving in our work and what we're doing.

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Jim: All right, Dr. Nicole. As we, anybody could jump in on this question, as the Maryland Christian Chamber launches on March the 19th, 2026, how is this event gonna impact your founding members, your board of directors, and the visitors that night?

Dr. Nicole Davis: Okay, so this is where I just need to pivot a little bit, being led by the Holy Spirit, because that date is important, but we're already thinking beyond that date. And is what's been going on the past couple of days, which is why I wanted Tony to be here because the Chamber is changing me as a person, and so I know it's going to do that for those who are coming along. Even just listening to Sonny right now, his life is being changed as a person.

But what Tony is going to share, and I'm just setting it up for him so he can talk to you legislatively and why it is that we as Christians need to be educated and involved in the decisions that are being made that impact us is a huge part of what the Chamber is going to provide. So that we are not just spectators, but we're participators in the kind of environment we wanna live in beyond prayer but in our activity. So just tell 'em what you've been doing, babe.

Tony Davis: Yeah, sure. So as Nicole said, that's why here as part of this podcast, and I just came in and for the past couple of days - so I'm, as I said earlier, I'm the legal and legislative chair and then within the chamber we have a committee that's called the advocacy committee and Advocacy regarding your rights.

And one of the things I did with the for the Chamber is showed people how to really just get involved in the process - how to find out who are your representatives? How do you contact them? How do you understand what pieces of legislation are being proposed? And here we call it the general assembly.

And how do you participate in the process as a witness? And then, and there's so much going on that can impact Christian businesses. So for instance, even today we had a piece of legislation where they wanted to make it, they wanted to fine nonprofits or charities and fine 'em like $5,000.

And also maybe even take their licenses if they took a political stance, either positively or negatively, for political candidate. And see, and what's interesting about that is they wanted to, they called it nonpartisan. But even here in Maryland, there's no such thing as nonpartisanship because if you are an independent voter, or we call it unaffiliated, which is what almost 900,000 people are here in this state, you can't even participate in the primary elections.

So they force you into partisanship but yet they wanted all this nonpartisan legislation. But the reality, what it was gonna do was ultimately muzzle Christians from expressing their views in the marketplace. So I spent today testifying against that, but even with that being said, I showed even people in the chamber how you can get involved with issues that are important to you.

Jim: And it was just last year that the IRS ruled saying, Hey, it's okay for political speech to be endorsed from the pulpit. You can actually endorse this from the pulpit. You don't have to stay outta the process 'cause for decades Christians have been lied to saying you can't get no political speech, no endorsements from the pulpit, but they were doing in certain churches, but just not other churches. And no, the IRS said, Nope. It's cool.

Wow. Tony, thank you for doing that. We honestly thought that Nicole wanted you to be there because you were her eye candy (chuckling) but I am super thrilled that you shared that because as you guys know, I'm running for mayor in my small town. In fact we're doing a show about that in a couple of weeks.

But as believers, we need to get involved in the government, in the political process, in the legislative process. For too many decades, it's been over a half a century, Christians have been absent period from local districts, the county, state government. We've been absent and we have, we shouldn't wonder why our country is in the state that it's at. We just checked out. So Tony, thank you for your service. Thank you for being there. Both of you served our country as well. I should have said that first.

Martha: Yes. And I think what you are telling me that you're gonna provide is a safe place where people can actually get truth and help guide them because we are confused. We get half truths, watered down. We can't get the searches with the true answers. There's all kinds of things that then scare people from making any decisions or speaking up in any way because they're not sure of the truth. And so I love that you have that aspect in your Christian Chamber of Commerce so that there is a place where people can get that knowledge.

And even like what Sonny was saying, having somebody that's a little further down the road than you to be able to go to and say, Hey, I'm thinking about this for my business. How's this gonna impact it? What stance do I need to take? And be able to do that in a way that is God honoring and truthful and good for your business because commerce is a part of this equation.

Tony Davis: Absolutely, Jim and Martha, and I can tell you, we even had a business owner who approached me and what she said to me was, look, the current rules in this state are making it hard for me to do business. And it's taxes, it's licenses, it's fees. What do I need to do? But now that business owner has the instructions on how to really become an active part of the process.

Dr. Nicole Davis: So it's education and courage. We're helping people become courageous in standing for what they believe in.

Jim: I can't imagine how terrifying that was to speak in front of the general assembly.

Tony Davis: Oh, not at all. Not at all. Not at all.

Jim: Oh, no. No big deal. (laughter)

Tony Davis: No.

Jim: Everybody else would've been just, okay.

Martha: That's awesome.

Jim: Nicole, dream for me. Actually, just share what God's revealed to you. Maryland five years from now. As a result of the impact of the Maryland Christian Chamber of Commerce on your entire state, what do you see?

Dr. Nicole Davis: Mark these words. I see Kingdom commerce communities. I see churches, businesses, healthcare facilities, grocery stores, people who are disenfranchised, marginalized, reentering from prison or any other area, learning a craft or a skill, a vocation, being a part of a community and seeing their value and their worth, and doing it all with Christ as the center of their lives because the church will be there to help them and businesses will be there to support them.

Jim: Wow. I wanted to end the show right there, but I have one more question, but that's fantastic. I love that and I love the fact that you were ready for that question.

Dr. Nicole Davis: I didn't know you were gonna ask that question, but that's why I said we're already beyond the launch.

Martha: Yeah.

Jim: We know you're beyond. You've been planning this. It's been incredible. I wanna hear from all three of you, though, this final question. The final thing you want our audience to hear about the launch and the furthering of the Maryland Christian Chamber. What's the final thing you wanna make sure the audience hears today, Sonny?

Sonny Norris: Oh, I would say if you're an entrepreneur, you're in business like myself, and especially for me, my business isn't directly faith-based. And so it's super important that from all levels of employment, that we have a kingdom culture inside of it, especially when we are a for-profit business.

Jim: Hang on, Sonny. Sorry. We interrupt this commercial for a corrections solution here. It's trufacilities.com, correct?

Sonny Norris: Yeah.

Jim: So what do you do? Do you clean facilities?

Sonny Norris: Yeah, so we offer our clients one point of contact to get every building service.

Jim: Okay, so wait a minute. So what you're saying you take messes and you clean them up?

Sonny Norris: Absolutely.

Jim: And that's not a kingdom thing?

Sonny Norris: No. I'm saying...

Jim: Stop. No. You don't get to backtrack. No. So here's the deal, Sonny. I wanna help you with this. You run a kingdom company, 'cause you represent an attribute of God every day you enter a company because you bring in, you come in to take what's a mess and clean it up. You put it in order so that people are safe, so people can flourish. You are running a Kingdom company, buddy. Lemme just tell you that. That is what you're doing, and I want to help you with that. I don't want ever hear you say, I don't run a company that's particularly Kingdom focused.

Sonny Norris: No, I understand that. I think that there is sometimes, though, some people in my shoes, we look at, because it's not necessarily something that maybe directly involved with preaching the gospel or anything like that. Although, like I said, throughout culture and throughout customer experience I mean our customer service, we do input those kingdom culture jewels and we train out our staff in that manner. Some people in my shoes could look at it and say, because we're not necessarily preaching the Bible every single day, it's not a...

Jim: That's because they're wrong and it's okay. (laughter)

Sonny Norris: I agree.

Jim: How many families do you impact? On your payroll, how many families are impacted by the payroll?

Sonny Norris: Right now there's 15.

Jim: Wow. 15 families. That's not the gospel? Remember, the gospel is not just the salvation message. It is, Jesus came to restore that which was lost in the kingdom, which was perfect mental health, perfect physical health, and perfect spiritual health. You are doing it every day. Sonny Norris, thank you for being with us today.

All right, Tony, final thing you wanna say, one more thing about the chamber, whatever you wanna say. It's free for all right now 'cause I open it up.

Tony Davis: Yeah, sure. I'm just gonna reiterate what I said before. We are one body. Now let's connect.

Jim: Amen. I wish we could be there. Dr. Nicole Davis, our friendship is precious. I'm so grateful for this. Close us out today. One final thing you wanna say.

Dr. Nicole Davis: That our lives matter. And these past couple of days have shown me that in a way that I didn't realize it. While many people are sitting at their computers, they're at the gym, they're at the grocery store, there are people like Tony and others who have decided to be the voice for our religious rights, our freedoms, and for our ability to serve God unhindered.

And to be a part of an organization that is promoting that for every person, no matter what denomination you are, what race you are, what your vocation is, that is precious in the sight of God. And we want to do something that's eternal and will make a difference in the Kingdom of God and advancing what's important to him, and we're doing that through the Maryland Christian Chamber of Commerce.

Jim: Check 'em out online, mdchristianchamber.com. That's MD christian chamber.com and if you've got a chance, be there at opening night on March the 19th, just outside of Baltimore, if I remember correctly. Where's your headlining event on the 19th?

Dr. Nicole Davis: College Park, University of Maryland, the Samuel Riggs Alumni Center.

Jim: Awesome. There you go. Thank you all for being with us and iWork4Him today. You've been listening to iWork4Him with your hosts, Jim and Martha Brangenberg. We're Christ followers. Our workplace, it's our mission field, but ultimately iWork4Him.