What does it look like to turn an apartment complex into a mission field?  

Meet Ken and Patti Sandel, a couple in their 70s and 80s who are living on purpose inside a Tennessee apartment community where they host gatherings, build trust, and show up daily for neighbors who need a listening ear or steady presence.  

Instead of choosing typical comfort in retirement, Ken and Patti followed a different calling – one that placed them in a community many would overlook. Through simple, consistent presence, they’re creating connection, offering care, and demonstrating what it means to truly love your neighbor right where you live. 

What you’ll hear in the episode: 

• Why Ken and Patti chose mission over leisure in retirement 

• How Apartment Life creates opportunities to build community and share faith 

• What it practically looks like to love and serve neighbors in an apartment setting 

• The challenges of building trust in a hurting and skeptical community 

• Simple, relational ways to make a lasting impact (from events to everyday presence) 

• The unexpected moments where ministry becomes deeply personal 

• Why living among people changes everything 

Ken and Patti’s story is a reminder that purpose isn’t tied to a season of life. It’s rooted in obedience. Whether in an apartment complex, neighborhood, or workplace, there’s an invitation to live with intention and bring Jesus into everyday spaces and moments.  

If you’re wondering what your next season could look like, consider exploring Apartment Life and how you might step into a mission field right where people are already living. 

FEATURING: Ken & Patti Sandel 

ORGANIZATION: Apartment Life 

Seven years after first appearing on iWork4Him, author, business leader, and “junkyard philosopher” Roy Goble joins Jim and Martha Brangenberg on iRetire4Him to talk about life in what many people would call the retirement years. But Roy says he never got the memo about slowing down. Now closer to 70 than 60, he’s still running Goble Properties, writing Junkyard Wisdom devotionals, and finding joy in serving others through his work and generosity. 

Drawing from lessons learned growing up in his father’s junkyard, Roy shares how faith, purpose, and generosity continue to shape the way he approaches this season of life – and why retirement doesn’t mean stepping away from meaningful impact. 

What You’ll Hear in This Episode 

• The deeper joy he finds in serving people through his work today 

• Why Roy’s motivation has shifted from ambition to impact 

• The role generosity plays in Roy’s family foundation and legacy planning 

• How writing Junkyard Wisdom devotionals opens doors for ministry 

• What Roy hopes the “final quarter” of life will be known for 

If you’d like to receive Roy’s daily encouragement, you can sign up for his “Junkyard Wisdom” devotional emails, where he shares short reflections on faith, leadership, generosity, and everyday life. 

For Roy, retirement isn’t about stepping away from purpose. It’s about continuing to live out your calling – faithfully, generously, and with love – right up to the very end.

FEATURING: Roy Goble 

ORGANIZATION: Junkyard Wisdom 

Our culture often treats retirement as the finish line, but Scripture never describes it that way. Followers of Jesus never retire from their calling to serve, lead, and love their communities. 

In this episode, Jim shares why he’s stepping into an unexpected new role: running for mayor of his small Missouri town. After decades of ministry encouraging believers in the workplace, Jim realized that the same calling applies long after traditional careers end. 

God had placed him in a community, given him relationships and influence, and opened the door to serve. The question became simple: Would he step forward or stay on the sidelines? 

In this episode, you’ll hear: 

• Why retirement doesn’t mean stepping away from purpose 

• How God used a move to a small town to open unexpected doors for influence 

• The biblical idea that everyone around us should benefit from our faith in Jesus 

• Why Christians withdrawing from civic life has left a leadership gap 

• How retirees often have the experience, wisdom, and time their communities desperately need 

• A challenge to consider serving locally, from school boards to city councils to community leadership 

Jim reminds listeners that the greatest enemy isn’t another candidate or political party. It’s the spiritual battle for the hearts and well-being of our communities. And that means believers are needed now more than ever. 

Instead of simply watching what happens in our cities, counties, and neighborhoods, what if we asked God where He wants us to serve next? Your career may have ended, but your mission hasn’t. Your experience, wisdom, and faith might be exactly what your community needs right now.  

FEATURING: Jim Brangenberg 

ORGANIZATION: iWork4Him Ministries 

At 77, Bob Tiede isn’t slowing down – he’s doubling down on purpose. In this episode of iRetire4Him, he explains why retirement isn’t about stepping away, but stepping into your most strategic years of influence (just like Moses, Joshua, and Caleb).  

Bob admits he once led as a “benevolent dictator:” kind but convinced a leader’s job was to figure it out and tell others what to do. Everything changed when he discovered a better model: lead with questions. 

Here’s what that might look like: 

• In leadership roles, ask: “What do you think we should do?” 

• Let others talk 80% of the time. 

• Follow up with: “Tell me more.” 

• In mentoring, ask deeper questions like: “What three or four events most shaped who you are today?” 

Why? Because when people answer their own questions, they own the outcome. And when they feel heard, they trust you. 

Bob also shares how this approach bridges generations. Younger leaders don’t want lectures. They want someone genuinely curious about their story. Ask well, listen carefully, and watch how influence grows naturally. 

His newest book, Success Unlocked, features 39 of the most impactful blog posts from over 1,300 blog articles on question-based leadership. 

Interested in putting your experience to work? Bob invites retirees to coach emerging leaders through Cru, just one hour every other week for two years (training provided). Just reach out to Bob at bob.tiede@cru.org. 

Retirement isn’t about having all the answers. 
It’s about asking better questions! 

FEATURING: Bob Tiede 

ORGANIZATION: Leading with Questions